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marici<zutakac@gmail.com> | Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:09 AM |
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Dear my virtual family, Many thanks to all of you for your quick and detailed response. I think today I do not go early to the event, but will work on the presentation, so that I can ask someone to translate it to Nepali. It is a difficult decision to refrain from something what I know I could do the best way – being permanently here (others come and go), having a permanent internet from home (NCell), having a portable laptop and having relatively good knowledge of English… If anyone can replace me in reporting and fulfil all these requirements, I will be only happy. But if I see that those who had accused me of harming Guruji by my reports, will be reluctant to sacrifice time and means to share what is happening in Nepal on this Group, and if there is a request from GG members that I continue or that my reports are really needed, than I will, of course, not leave you without news.Because I remember how hungry I used to be for any tiny news about Guruji, when Andy was here and I was in Europe… Even one photo and one sentence (though object to the above mentioned mistakes and wrong visions, as we all are) could make my day happy… So now it is the time of changes and time to proof that the new generation of reporters can carry the fire burning. marici |
Darren_86<yitmin_86@yahoo.com> | Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:42 AM |
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Oh God, this is becoming silly. I believe Marici mean of New reporter as being new age reporter; in the sense of a blogger, that represents her personnal views; which so far I have not seen any that are harming DS image in the GG group. And I personally would not give in to any autocratic authorisation (harressment), in preventing and harrassing others from expressing their views on this issue. DS is not a private property; which should be remembered by all. The GG group cherished its member’s input, and to refrain others from commenting is a breach of civil rights. DS would in the near coming months comes up and teach the truth, and I believe by then, things will be as clear as spring water. So lets us all treat everyone with respect without discrimination (not only on race, religion and caste, but a total respect in other’s view and expression) and let DS take the lead which would clear the air by itself. By coming, directing and teaching others as per our own instinct, knowledge and diplomatic view will never be in the spirit of Maitri and non-discrimination. -Darren- |
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———- Forwarded message ———- From: pragyaratna ghullu <pragyaratna@gmail.com> Date: 2011/5/29 Subject: Re: [buddhaboy] Re: Presenting Google Group at Mahadarshan? To: buddhaboy@googlegroups.com Dear dharma brothers and sisters in the Google Group,
This Morning after my morning prayers i sat in front of computer and felt very sad to read this. concerning Marici’s civil rights and her fights we must not forget what kind of insecure feeling she created.The whole group in the jungle dedicating their life n hard work are worried about her. We all need to believe in Sangha.She wished not to be a part of sangha as she spoke in front of us( Dr.Moon, Ivy, kim, me and Driver) in the car, then we have nothing so say and nothing to react from my side with her. But we wished to help her and bring her back in the sangha of Guru Dharma Sangha and tried to help her but all she took in negative direction.If she continue taking each one who tried to help her as Mara then she must need some cure before the consequence become worse and before any legal actions to overcome the insecure circumstance she is creating in the name of Dharma Sangha. However, I’m totally disagree with following lines she wrote, “Another fact is that noone informed me a translation group is formed and Speech is being translated. I bumped into Pragya for another reason, and only then he told that those people in the corner are working on a translation, and I can join. I checked the texts and found it very good” Her another Fact that she was not informed about translation group is true but another truth is she is not attending any meetings happening among Sangha and we don’t have any means of communication to reach her. However, On 21nd May, i was dictating Guru Dharma Sangha’s speech of 20th May in Nepali in paper from the tape recorder provided by Kim and i saw marici roaming around and i called her to join the translation, she did but she left after 5 mins saying she cannot work in such messy condition. That time we just started translation and going through the first few lines, how she can say she checked it and found it very good. we sat down rest of day in writing first in Nepali repeating each few time to get exact word cause guruji’s pronunciation is different from normal Nepali pronunciation and was hard to get at once.Unfortunately, i had to leave for Kathmandu with the big Group of Rev.Junsei Terasawa with his 53 deciples from Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia,China. India and UK as i was responsible for their arrangement of Pilgrimage. I could go only 2/3 of the guruji’s speech. I asked Sherpa Lama and rest of our Dharma friends to finish rest. I must thank all those devoted members in the Ratanpuri( specially Sherpa Lama, Mike(Jyampa Dorje), dorje(i don’t know his English name), Adi Baba, Ivy, Kim, Ngima Dawa, one lady( i don’t know her name) and many more) who worked hard to finish translation and helping in every task in the site to make this Mahadarsan successful. Marici told us she got huge number of thanks after she posted overview of guruji’s speech it doesn’t mean that she can ignore and stop communicating with rest of people dedicating their life forgetting all hard time in the site. i humbly request to all google group members to stop discussing about any kind of grouping topics concerning Marici Group and Acharya Sonam Gurmey group, I’m 100% sure Acharya Khempo Sonam Gurmey don’t have any such intension. i will never wish to be part of such Sangha dividing unforgivable sin.Better i quit Google group. Plz forgive me Guru Dharma Sangha if i made any mistake and created any inconvenience to any sentient beings. May All Beings Be Happy. With Maitri, Ven.Pragya Ratna
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Report from Nepal
Add star marici<zutakac@gmail.com> Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:51 PM
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Dear Group,
Though I have announced that I will not report anymore, as I am not staying nearby Khenpo in Ratanpuri, I have been to Halkoriya and also I am in constant touch with devotees outside Ratanpur Gompa and „Committee”members in Pilowa (Guruji does not like to use the word „committee”, „samiti”in Nepali, rather „sangha”), so actually I am always informed about what is going on.
Yesterday there was another Astashila – vow of Eight Morals, with meeting Guruji at a Darshan in Halkoriya. I would not know it, as at the last one it was stated that no more such Astashila Darshans will be held until Mahadarshan in May…. But I happened to meet Manu, Guruji’s nun-sister two days ago, and she invited me for the event. I was delighted to be back to Halkoriya, Heaven on Earth, and visit the places I used to spend some months…There are many forest fires in the area, and they do not avoid Halkoriya as well. The only area which has an „immunity”against fires, is the small circle of Guruji’s meditational site, I heard from someone; it is said they have seen ashes just up to the smaller fence, and no more, in the past…Of course, someone who combusted into fire himself, is most probably the Master of Fire in any circumstances, even without any special effort on his side. In that case, I am afraid that the settlement of Halkoriya now burnt even around the houses, is under His control and agreement… So all the dense green which surrounded our tents, are burnt, and even bigger trees became half burnt… The flames are at times many meters high, as windy days spread them in seconds. And these are windy days. The only think which survived is Millie’s pair of shoes, left there 🙂
Forest fires are, as I understand, a constant problem in Nepal, it is very dry this year, and people who visit the forest to (illegally) cut wood or (illegally) hunt, many times smoke and throw their cigarettes, or cook on fire and don’t care… or as Gangaji told, they are just „bad people”and want to chase away wild animals by making fires. So if one drives the roads at dark, on both sides there are many local forest fires…Sunita, Waiba’s daughter-in-law says that this is happening every year, and that Halkoriya is burnt down also every year. I feel pity for the freshly grown light green plants, and also the trees. Another unpleasant effect of forest fires is the air filled with smoke every day. Especially in Halkoriya, the air is not clean, and all who live there have to breathe in the smoke. In Pilowa this smoke becomes a layer of smog above the village, covering the brightness of the rising or setting sun and moon…
Astashila went as usual, with about 500 or more people. What was new, that Dawaji arrived with Hiu Maya and little Mary Dolma as well, together with a group of Westerners? I could meet Lyndon (Lobsang Sherab), our GG member for the first time. He looks so young! He is going to attend a school to study Sanskrit, Tibetan and Nepali in Kathmandu from August, and before that he would like to stay in Ratanpur and become a monk under Dharma Sangha, and join Mike, the first Western „robed” monk under Guruji, and the Uppasikas (Andy, Catherine, Veronique, Ivy, Kim, Dawa).
Guruji was smiling on many people, so I suppose he is now happier. Fabio from Italy, a new meditator to join the Westerners interested to be disciples, was overwhelmed by the presence and blessing. It is always so nice to watch newcomers how happy they are to meet Dharma Sangha the first time, and how blessed they feel. He was staying in Ratanpur, and now he sleeps in the wooden office of BSDS in Piluwa (Pilowa), five kilometers from Halkoriya on the other side of the road.
My eyesight is worsening day by day. I have no idea why this is happening just in Nepal and so quickly. I will have to think about visiting an optician, because I stop to recognize people’s faces if they are already something like ten meters from me. So sitting behind the crowd at Astashila, I had no chance to see into Guruji’s face, what made me sad, especially because it is possible that I will have no more chance to see him. With Guruji, as I am experiencing, nothing ever is sure, concerning (our human) plans for the future, as if we are supposed to live just in the presence and. He is in a constant flow of „holy visitations”, and circumstances and people are always changing, transforming, some old things disappear for all, some new things appear… The strong influence of the Moon in his natal horoscope is felt around. So while some people say he will do this and that after Mahadarshan, other people claim that they have heard him saying totally opposite plans… Myself, I am led by inner feelings and intuitions, but even those lost their value when they appeared false some weeks ago… I remember Andy’s experience with „false visions”, described in her book Reflections on Palden Dorje…
So maybe this confusion and unfulfilled hopes are to teach us, that „I am only showing the way, but you must do it on your own”, meaning us devotees tend to too much rely on the human form of Guruji, forgetting to work on ourselves. And maybe also to remind us of impermanence and the fact that there is nothing fixed and sure in the whole Universe to hold on?
A little political gossip:
Last time when returning from Simra on the 1st of Vaisakh, there was no transport anymore, as this is the Nepali New Year (one of them, as different nationalities celebrate different other New Years according to their calendars). So I asked for advice an intelligently looking motorbike rider with a child, and he told me he drops the baby home and comes back to me to take me to Pilowa. This was a typical Nepali reaction. They are very caring and I think also like foreigners here. I wanted to pay him some money, but he refused.
It turned out that he spoke very good English (not too usual), because he used to work in Iraq, as so many Nepalese, for the American army. They earn relatively high amounts, but of course, the price is also high: hard work with a few rest, danger for life. He told me that now he is rich, and also has a good job, drives a truck, what is well paid here. He explained to me, that the land in Nepal is slowly sold (rented for 50 or more years) to India by Nepali ministers, because of greed for quick money, which, I suppose, is just partly going into public pockets… Other people also say that Nepal could have electricity 24 hours long, because it does produce, but again, the greed of politicians sells Nepali electricity across the border to India, so in India there is electricity all day long in most places, while Nepalese have just about Two-three times a day for two-four hours…
Though village life looks ideal at the first sight, yesterday I have also learned that the corn which is heaped in the yard of our neighbors is actually not good for food (so I cannot buy „dero” flour from them, which is the local „polenta”). That they grow a hybrid corn, which then they sell to big factories, as for this corn they are paid more, than for the tasty local corn… I do not wish even to investigate, if this is GM and if this is the effect of Monsanto, the world (in) famous GM Company, which destroyed many farms in the Third World to make them grow GM crops and forbid them to grow original ones… Good news is that Nepalese, even many times uneducated, have an inborn intelligence to recognize that these crops are just not good for food, so people eat local ones in their delicious dishes…
I am working on a report for Google Group on village life, as I am so excited from it! I am actually happy that I did not join the Ratanpur Gompa community, because then I would not have the chance to enjoy the small, but beautiful and cute universe of Pilowa.
Life is recycling around me: In the Waiba house three kittens were born on the even of Guruji’s birthday: one black, one grey and one striped. Just some days ago their cute puppy died in the yard, maybe from poisoning. Their buffalo is expecting a baby every moment.
Nepal suffers from great draught these days. Usually the mango trees are full of small potential mango fruits, but now, they say, it is not enough rain, so there will be not many mangoes on Waiba’s trees :-(. I love mango so much…
Some weeks ago Khenpo asked me if I can wrote some poem praising Guruji in English. I could manage, but in my case these things can happen only through inspiration, never by order… So if anyone of you have written poems about Guruji, please collect them in a thread, and then I print them out and give Khenpo. He probably wants to use it at the program of Mahadarshan.
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मरीचि marīci
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Add star Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com> Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:46 AM
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How about this poem that Scarlet Adams wrote about a year ago and has
been trying to get Dharma Sangha to accept it ever since. I did send
it to LTJ yet everything was happening at once (as it is now) so I do
not know what became of it. She used to be a member here and on
Facebook yet I do not know where she is now.
TIMI TENSE
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Swami Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Lakho Pranam Chha Timlie (I Salute You A Hundred Thousand Times)
Lakho Pranam Chha Timlie (I Salute You A Hundred Thousand Times)
Suikaarnu Antarayami (Please Accept My Humility, Oh All Pervading)
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Tiri Rathna Ko Aagaya Leh (After The Order Of The « Tiri Ratna »)
Dhaarnu Bayho Yo Roop (You Started To Become A Mediator)
Timro Aarti Utaruu (And Today I Conduct Your Aarati)
Timro Aarti Mah Gaayu (And Today I Sing Your Aarati/Glories)
Timlie Chardahu Mah Dhoop (And Today I Offer You Essence Sticks)
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Pyar Sanga Jhaleh Pukarchha (Whoever Calls Upon You With Love..)
Jho Garcha Timro Dyan (Whoever Mediates)
Uslie Gale Lagayera (You Take Them In Your Arms)
Disheensha Un Lie Gyan (You Give Them Your Wisdom)
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Dharma Ko Palan Garna (To Keep Religion Going)
Timi Aayo, Avatar (You Came As An Incarnate)
Sansar Lie Gyani Banuona (To Make The World More Knowledgeable)
Bhaysious Palan Har (You Became Our Savior)
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Pipal Rukh Ko Mooni (Under The Pipal Tree)
Chha Timro Dhaam (Is Your “Location”)
Sab Bhanda Pavan Jag Teo (And That Place Isthe Most Purest)
Thei Chha Mero Bhagvan (Since That’s Where God Is Seated)
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Kay Na Kaikana (Wihtout Eating Or Drinking)
Timi Leh Garnu Bho Dhyan (You Mediated)
Sansar Ko Dhan Ko Ma Kasari (How Can I Properly Praise The Wealth Of
All Beings)
Garu Puri Bhayaan (How Can I Properly Praise The Wealth Of All Beings)
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Timi Ho Daya Ko Sagar (You Are A Sea Of Mercy)
Timi Karuna Ko Roop (You Are A Symbol Of Peace)
Timi Ho Gyan Ko Jyoti (You Are The Light Of Wisdom)
Timi Huay-Sein-Chha Anoop (You Are Imcomparable)
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Aphnu Sthan Ma Bhasera (Sitting In Your “Place”)
Sab Ma Dyan Garnu (Please Watch Over All Beings)
Timro Charan Bata Mah-Lie (And Please, Away From Your Lotus Feet…)
Bhatakna Nadinu (Do Not Let Me Wander)
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Swami Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
Lakho Pranam Chha Timlie (I Salute You A Hundred Thousand Times)
Lakho Pranam Chha Timlie (I Salute You A Hundred Thousand Times)
Suikaarnu Antarayami (Please Accept My Humility, Oh All Pervading)
Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)
The Nepali Aarati
ॐ जाया जाया बुद्ध ज्ञानी
स्वामीजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
लाखोप्रणामचतीमीलाई
लाखोप्रणामचतीमीलाई
स्वीकारोअंतरयामी
ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
तिरीरत्नाकोआज्ञाले
धारनुभयोयोरूप
तिम्रोआरतीउतारू
तिम्रोआरतीमगाओ
तीमीलाईचरडाउमधुप
ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
प्यारसंगहजललेपुकार्चा
जोगरचातिम्रोध्यान
उसलाईगलेलगाएरा
उसलाईगलेलगाएरा
दीसिंचाउनलाईज्ञान
ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
धर्मंकोपालनगर्नाह
तिमीआयोअवतार
संसारलाईज्ञानीबनौना
हामीलाईज्ञानीबनौना
हुनुभयोपालनहार
ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
पीपलरुखकोमुन्नी
चतिम्रोधाम
सबभन्दापावनजगहथिओ
सबभन्दापावनजगहथिओ
ठीचमेरोभगवान
ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
केहीनाखाईकाना
तिमीलेगर्नुभयोध्यान
संसारकोधनकोमाकसरी
योजगहकोधनकोमाकसरी
गरुपूरीबैयाँ
ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
तिमीहोदायाकोसागर
तिमीकरुनाकोरूप
तिमीहोज्ञानकोज्योति
तिमीहोदिव्यज्योति
तिमीताहोअनूप
ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
अपणुस्थानमाबसेरा
सबमाध्यानगर्नु
तिम्रोचरणबातामालाई
तिम्रोशरणबातामालाई
भातकीनानदिनु
ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
स्वामीजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
लाखोप्रणामचतीमीलाई
लाखोप्रणामचतीमीलाई
स्वीकारोअंतरयामी
ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी
When asked about music behind it she choose the following yet was open
to other choices.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiWSM5Klcqo
She felt she was inspired and we had several discussions about that.
Flax Seed
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Thank you so much Flax for sharing this prayer with us. I’m very busy as I’m leaving tomorrow for Nepal, but I took the time to listen to this, it made me feel deeply grateful. You are such a wonderful person, thanks again!
Jhampa Lhaden
> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:01:38 -0700
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Add star Ricky Chong<thchong22@yahoo.com> Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:13 PM
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Dear Flax,
Glad to read your great poem. Please read poem thru YouTube, all member can hear your voice, I love to hear it. Om Namo Guru Buddha Gyani
Chong
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Add star Catherine.Weber<weber.catherine.v@wanadoo.fr> Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:46 PM
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Dear Flax, this is full of love and gratitude, a song to be sung to our Mv Dharma Sangha in the groves of Pureland, under the wish-fulfilling trees. Thank you Scarlet Adams, and thank you Flax for your indefectible and worthwhile presence, helping us to follow up with the teachings, the news, helpful information and friendliness towards everyone.
I am investing time these days to catch up with my knowledge in Buddhist philosophy and its innumerous great teachers. It is a great delight.
I wish I would be fluent in Tamang, Nepali, Tibetan, and Hindi and most of all Maitri language.
Jyampa Lhaden, may your journey be a fountain of blessings making your light shine evermore.
Lhashang
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Dear sister Jhampa Lhashang,
Thank you for your good wishes. Your messages always radiate pure love. In this great universe, you are a bright shining star!
Jhampa Lhaden
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:01:42 +0200
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Dear Flax,
I showed the song to Khenpo and he said, “Very nice”
and I don’t remember what happened after that.
I do suggest you send it Pragya, or actually
Ram Bakta Bomjan might be your man for this.
I will dig up his email for you.
LT J D
Add star Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com> Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:45 AM
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L T J D like your initials with your double J 🙂
I appreciate you showing it to Khenpo.
According to Marici
“Some weeks ago Khenpo asked me if I can wrote some poem praising
Guruji in
English. I could manage, but in my case these things can happen only
Through
Inspiration, never by order… So if anyone of you have written poems
About
Guruji, please collect them in a thread, and then I print them out and
Give
Khenpo. He probably wants to use it at the program of Mahadarshan.”
So he is aware of it and that is sufficient for me. I really do not
Know the implications to move forward with it – in that – Scarlet is
No longer part of face book and the discussion around this has
Disappeared. I do not think she is a member here either from my
Investigative skills.
Khenpo Sonam might want a more western style poem since he is still
Seeking.
This is a chance for all those creative heartfelt devotees to dig
Deep.
Flax Seed
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Add star Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com> Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:37 AM
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I am compelled to add to this discussion that I have pursued this poem
For the sake of Scarlet Adams in that we entered an ongoing
Relationship in Facebook. Much of our discussion was recorded in
Discussions yet is now gone. We also talked 1to1 also.
I can understand how many like this prayer/poem and I am respectful of
That. My conversation with Scarlet was that it was promoting Dharma
Sangha as a God and how that made me feel uncomfortable. What she was
Asking for was to have Dharma Sangha look at it and let him decide.
That is what I was helping her with.
I do agree we are promoting Dharma Sangha as our most high inner self
And all that it entails 🙂 So many will go with this and sing his
Praises on high as many Catholics have done likewise to Jesus ‘the
Christ’. It seems to come with the territory.
I would not be one to resist that or get in the way yet it will always
Be important to remind each other that our real goal is self-love and
Finding our inner self to be most high and then finding each other
Inside as we praise that which ‘Is’. The added thing of finding No-
Self or Not-Self is something I am learning about and for now will say
That has to do with getting-out-of-the-way and that is when All-Heaven-
Breaks-Loose.
On the other hand we have this rare opportunity to follow this amazing
Person – Dharma Sangha – that seems to be doing what it takes to
Become what we seek by getting Out-of-the-way. We will know it when
He gets there – until then we might keep a close third eye on what
Unfolds. Even getting close is amazing. Pureland is in the May-it-
Come stage yet is still just-around-the-corner under the tree.
Flax Seed
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Marici
Here is another poem from the past that was written about Dharma
Sangha from our Australian member Judith. Not sure if she is a member
Now.
http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/msg/5337a3f8b61af8ce
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Dear Dharma brothers and sisters,
it is not exactly the topic : a poem from us about Dharma Sangha, because this is a poem from Dharma Sangha to us that I heard pouring from his heart while I was in the plane from Nepal back to France.
He surely saw how I missed him and his cathedral-like meditation tree, so he said this with soooooo much love, may it give you a lot of joy and Maitri :
“Platinum threads of divine grace gently descending from pure skies,
With the enchanting tingling of chimes;
Sprinkling fresh breezes of contentment and crystal clear peace;
Like the aerial roots of the Pipal-tree descending to the ground,
They descend as the envoys of deities
So as to seal Heavens with all living creatures;
Harmony of the Pureland comes and expands on the earth.
Bathe, you all sentient beings,
In the lake of love and pure blessings.
Sit in the circle of infinite knowing.”
Lhashang
> Message du 25/04/11 05:15
> De : “Flax Seed”
> A : “Ram Bomjon – Dharma Sangha”
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> Objet : [buddhaboy] Re: Report from Nepal
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> Marici
>
> here is another poem from the past that was written about Dharma
> Sangha from our Australian member Judith. Not sure if she is a member
> now.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/msg/5337a3f8b61af8ce
>
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> > On Apr 23, 11:00 pm, Flax Seed wrote:
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> > > L T J D like your initials with your double J 🙂
> >
> > > I appreciate you showing it to Khenpo.
> >
> > > according to Marici
> > > “Some weeks ago Khenpo asked me if I can wrote some poem praising
> > > Guruji in
> > > English. I could manage, but in my case these things can happen only
> > > through
> > > inspiration, never by order… So if anyone of you have written poems
> > > about
> > > Guruji, please collect them in a thread, and then I print them out and
> > > give
> > > Khenpo. He probably wants to use it at the program of Mahadarshan.”
> >
> > > So he is aware of it and that is sufficient for me. I really do not
> > > know the implications to move forward with it – in that – Scarlet is
> > > no longer part of face book and the discussion around this has
> > > disappeared. I do not think she is a member here either from my
> > > investigative skills.
> >
> > > Khenpo Sonam might want a more western style poem since he is still
> > > seeking.
> > > This is a chance for all those creative heartfelt devotees to dig
> > > deep.
> >
> > > Flax Seed
> >
> > > On Apr 23, 9:49 pm, LoveTruthJoy wrote:
> >
> > > > Dear Flax,
> > > > I showed the song to Khenpo and he said, “Very nice”
> > > > and I don’t remember what happened after that.
> > > > I do suggest you send it Pragya, or actually
> > > > Ram Bakta Bomjan might be your man for this.
> > > > I will dig up his email for you.
> > > > LT J D
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Lhashang
What you write is lovely
Keeps us where we are meant to be
The crossing over to Pureland will be all about being ‘here’
Where we have come to know
Letting all that has led us to this moment just be
And bathe in the love
In the words of Marici in this thread
“As if we are supposed to live just in the presence”
On Apr 25, 9:32 am, “Catherine.Weber” <weber.catherin…@wanadoo.fr>
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Thank you my brother
> Message du 25/04/11 17:06
> De : “Flax Seed”
> A : “Ram Bomjon – Dharma Sangha”
> Copie à :
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>
> Lhashang
>
> What you write is lovely
> keeps us where we are meant to be
> The crossing over to Pureland will be all about being ‘here’
> Where we have come to know
> letting all that has led us to this moment just be
> And bathe in the love
>
> In the words of Marici in this thread
>
> “as if we are supposed to live just in the presence”
>
> On Apr 25, 9:32 am, “Catherine.Weber”
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[buddhaboy] From Marici
Add star lovetruthjoy@gmail.com<lovetruthjoy@gmail.com> Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:39 PM
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Dear Google Group,
(Brief message from Mahapranidan)
It is a long time I have written to you all. My life is very busy here, much more than in a big city. We wake up early, go for blessings still in the dark, experience sunrise at Guruji, and then go back to do our daily routine… The three days of Mahapranidan were quite exhausting, as the thousands of visitors are of that kind of noisy crowd we all know from Dharma Sangha videos previously. Also it was a good test of human patience, tolerance, non-discrimination and priorities of everyone at the site, and I must admit that not everyone has passed it… But thanks God today is the last day, and the peace and silence will again return to the jungle…
First of all I would like to thank Catherine Weber, who arrived some days ago, and took some material donation for the local community made of a few monks and nuns, and some „left-overs“ of Samsara like Usha didi, Nangsal-Ji and me, and of course Khenpo lama and his assistances. Right away it was needed, as Shyam, Guruji’s smaller brother came here with a desperate need of pens, so we gave him Catherine’s present as well as the three scissors she brought, as scissors seem to be, for some secret reason, a great treasure here… Maybe one of the reasons is also the Bodhisattva Vow, which Andy has taken some days ago, and in which a few hairs are cut by Guruji personal ally from the new „Boddhisattva’s“ head. Yesterday two other people decided to take this Boddhisattva Vow (meant for lay-persons as an alternative to monk- and nun-hood), Canadian Marie-Soleil, whom we know already from her last visit, and Veronique. But at the site we have found out there are no scissors, and it seemed noone had the idea to bring them quickly, until the big line for blessing passes. So I had some undigested anger-energy in me from the last day, when I found out, together with Andy, that the English transliteration of the Mahapranidan Prayers is not accurate and cannot be practically used. This anger I needed to convert to some positive fire-activity, so I offers to run the quite long way from Guruji’s place to our tents and bring my scissor… I am very happy I had the opportunity to take this early-morning jogging, not many people can afford to use Guruji’s forest for run J It was beautiful and useful at once, and just when I arrived they started the Astashil (monk- or nun-vows, as well as Boddhisattva Vows are apparently taken during the Eight Morals Vow).
The new Boddhisattvas of Guruji’s order were then Kim from California, Catherine from France, Veronique and also Dawaji, our dear Orphanage founder and Google Group member. Guruji was never so happy smiling, we all admire the photos Andy has taken, never so glad… And his happiness continued today when also Marie-Soleil took her Boddhisattva Vow, together with two Nepali men who felt apparently inspired by the deep faith of us, Westerners. We have a very pleasant „team“ here, and I wish all cold stay longer, but most people have their families, and have to pop home for some months. But it is clear already now, that all Westerner who have been in our group, are deeply impressed by Guruji, and that we kind of sacrificed our life and hearts and everything we have and what we are, to him… Imagine speaking daily about our admiration, love, care, worries, trusting in Guruji… Can be anything more ecstatic than such a group of people?
Though it is true that I am not speaking, as I am keeping Mauna, a vow of silence, for an indefinite period. Still I have never felt more involved in social life than now. It is a paradox, I do not speak, but people speak to me and involve me in everything, and deleting my own chatting energy from all this seems to be very auspicious. I decided to keep this vow three days before Mahapranidan, when something(-s) happened during a night when Andy was in Simara at the internet. Just sorry, I cannot tell it, as I must keep it secret, but it was an experience of great danger. So next day I went to Khenpo, as the main „authority“ at the site (Guruji is not dealing with such human issues J ) and announced that I will stop talking… „Im-possible!“ got the very typical answer from Khenpo, as Mahapranidan was approaching and he hoped to add me to the regimen of 250 volunteers, as I could look after the foreigners etc… About 40 English speakers were expected, but ….we are still only a few, and it is the last of the Prayers: Milli, Mike, Catherine, Veronique, Marie-Soleil, Nick the cameraman (not Google Group), and yesterday Ivee, I think from Pakistan or India, who painted an amazingly accurate painting of Guruji and presented it today. He does not take presents, but blessed the picture and I suppose it will soon be hanging on the office wall. You will see it on Andy’s photo…
So it is still not too many. And we still felt we were kind of lost, as the Prayers well all in Boddhisattva language (a kind of Tibetan), and Khenpo had no time to help us with the authorized translation… And even so, the phonetically transliterated version was just wrong, noone could follow it, I suppose it was changed in the last moment before printing… So a big chaos, viewed from all those who did not speak Nepali or Boddhisattvan language. So we tried at least to pick up the message from the vibration of the Prayer, to meditate during chanting. The big tent (the one which was broken down by a hailstorm because the people who built it, were listening to disco-music all night, disturbing the animals) was filed with monks and monks and monks.. and they all chanted one voice… For me personally it was a heartbreakingly strong experience, and I was taken by this wave into some forgotten Tibetan life, that feeling „Oh, I did experience this stuff already many times in the past, I know this!“…
So back to my Mauna, I have realized that I am communicating with people much more than when I spoke. I also try not to use body-language so I rather keep away from people, but when I am with them, I must use body-language, and it is always a fight to make them understand what I mean. Some people have some telepathic abilities, and know right away what I mean, what is interesting. So I am doing a lot of laundry now, also finding firewood in the forest and making fire became my voluntary duty…So when I am around the fire, Milli comes and speaks to me about deep things which she did not do before, and I feel we are totally at the same opinion, so it is an easy case for me, I am just bowing for „yes-yes, „exactly“… Then when she goes to bed (actually to sleeping bag in her tent), Andy comes, and speaks to me longly, and it sound like she is speaking out my own thoughts.. So again, I am just bowing my head….
And this is going liek this most of the time. Without the possibility to express my opinions and views, people „do the job for me“, and I do not have to spend a single word… So Mauna has its positive sides. But also negative one… Like I cannot speak for me that I am hungry or this me like that not, and body-language is somehow confusing to the Nepali volunteers who cook food and tea during this period… So I am most of the time just standing around the kitchen, wishing someone to notice me, but there are many similar hanging-around people who do not want to eat, so usually I am somehow left out… So then I sit near other, who eat, in the hope some volunteer will see me… But just when they have served the last one, they do not return with offering anymore… So concerning food I find myself in an embarrassing situation, when I have to find other people to get me my food, like Andy, some monks or Gangaji, Dawaji etc… And when finally I decided for a dramatical change: I will then fast and it will be easier for everyone, and prepared for the fast with secretly eating a lot of milk-rice left in the kitchen, then that evening all volunteers focus on me and not stopping to offer me supper… So again, big fight to explain them in body-language, that „no, thank you, I have already eaten, three plates of your tasty milk-rice, and I am totally full so I don’t take supper this time“… They are worried, consult seriously with each-other, „why you did not serve that woman?“, „did she eat?“ „why she doesn’t eat?“…
Of yes, be prepared for the Nepali mentality if you come here. Nepalese are extremely caring about your well-being, comfort, hunger and thirst, and very long we were strictly forbidden even to help them with washing dishes or carrying water from the spring! But in the same time, for no apparent reason, they can also ignore you totally, not to answer your question and just look aside as if you are a bunch of air-molecules only… This can seem very impolite from a Western-upbringing view, but etiquette is different here. Not better, not worse, just different…
So I just wanted to express myself in writing to you, and to give the news, that Guruji is very happy if someone comes to take the Vow. I forgot to write (but i am sure there will be more info on this from Andy), that we have a new Western monk among us, Mike. Who came here as a lay person, and today or tomorrow leaves in red robes… So this is a really fruitful time for Guruji’s effort to save humans from suffering by leading them to the path of liberation by the self-sacrifice of a Boddhisattva. You might ask, if I myself made this Vow as well. No, I haven’t. My case is a little different, but let me keep this private. Time will show what kind of Vow, if any, I will take in front of Guruji. Right now I just have this Mauna Vow, which is quite demanding, and I am regularly forget about it (like early morning, half asleep, asking Andy what is the time, for example). One thing is sure: I am dedicating daily my whole life to this great saint, and day by day I have a greater respect, faith and love for him. It is just not stopping, just growing gradually…
Om namo Guru Buddha Gyani!
Will write you next time, and giving you reports instead of Andy, who is leaving for Japan now.
With love,
marici
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List of suggestions of international devotees raised at the meeting of local “inhabitants of the Halkoriya settlement” (about 20 people currently), presented by Khenpo:
Reason of making this list of suggestions:
We, foreigners would like to express our thanks for your hospitality, friendliness and that you all are so kind to us. Thanks to your behavior to us we can feel here like at home. There are only a few things, which we collected and discussed, by which we think we could make this place more faithful to Dharma Sangha’s message. Because, after all, he is the only and main reason we all are here, though sometimes some people maybe tend to forget…
So we foreigners decided to hand over a list of soft suggestions to the local devotees, by which, we are convinced; we better fulfill the teachings of Dharma Sangha. After spending here some weeks, we have found some elements in the behavior of people to each-other, to the animals and the forest, which elements are in our opinion not in tune with Dharma Sangha’s wish. Let us please express them, so that you can also see how we feel about the atmosphere of Halkoriya, and how seriously we take our Guru’s words. We are learning a lot of things from the spiritual traditions of Nepal, as well as Guruji’s teaching, and in exchange we would like to offer some positive aspects of the Western lifestyle and approach. For example, in the West we have devastated our nature so much, that nowadays people already started to understand how important it is to keep our nature, forests, fields, animals etc. away from the influence of human lifestyle, chemicals, rubbish etc. The West has already enjoyed a materially comfortable lifestyle, and yet people did not get happier. So, for example, many international visitors who are here now or will come in the future could be quite disappointed to find out that here can be a big emphasis on external signs of material richness, and that many local people associate spirituality with richness, fame here.
Please understand that we foreigners have all travelled thousands of kilometers, prepared many years and spent many resources and left our family members for long time just to be able to be near to Dharma Sangha, and for us this place is a holy land. We are taking seriously each of his words and teachings. But we are sad that many devotees in Halkoriya tend to forget that the main reason why we are all here, which is only Dharma Sangha and his teachings. We are not here in Halkoriya for entertainment, worldly pleasures, comfort or possessing material objects.
Please do understand that we, the four international visitors, have sacrificed our jobs, time spent with family etc. just to be able to come here and spend time here, and it is very sad that we do not see local people to follow Dharma Sangha‘s moral rules in everyday life, and especially his call for serious spiritual practice. This atmosphere can be strongly demoralizing and deterring for those international visitors who plan to visit Halkoriya in the future, and if you wish more foreigners to come here and stay, we are asking you to reconsider certain points of your behavior to each other, to the animals and the plants of the jungle. We would like to emphasize that we fully understand the words of Dharma Sangha, according to which Dharma is not an outer system or organization, but Dharma must come from inside each person.
So this list of suggestions is just a collection of our ideas, how to keep the words and teachings of Dharma Sangha at this site. We are also afraid that the behavior of people here to each other, animals and the forest is exactly the reason why did Dharma Sangha decide to move the people of this settlement to Ratanpuri after the Mahadarshan. So let’s everyone reconsider how much do we follow his teachings and how seriously we take him, and question ourselves if we are willing start to take his spiritual message seriously.
1. We all asking you not to kick into the dogs and cats, not to torture them by teasing. Some of us have seen 4 very serious incidents of torturing dog puppies and kittens!! Please respect that this place is a holy place and Guruji loves animals. Any suffering of an animal which we cause creates a bad karma, even if it seems a good fun for us: animals take it seriously and for them it is a traumatic experience.
2. In the beginning of his meditational practice Dharma Sangha once complained that „MY ALL LIFE’S PRACTICE IS MADE JUST AN ENTERTAINMENT IN THE EYES OF PEOPLE“
Let us always remind ourselves that all the time he is in deep ascetic meditation, while many people at the site listen to pop-music, spend their time on plain talks and chatter, are very noisy …. etc. Please every time you are spending your time in plain entertainment, noisy chatter etc., realize why are we here, and that there is the guru in this forest who is sitting alone in the cold and sacrificed everything for our liberation…. If we are really here for Guruji, then we should respect what he is doing for all humankind, and at least to try to follow his spiritual practice and behavior. Please be aware, that many international followers who come here and plan to come are interested in a meditative atmosphere and not a place with pop-music from mobile phones and having a good fun. Most Westerners, who come here, are taking Guruji’s ascetic practice seriously, and he is an example for them, so they would like to follow his meditative lifestyle as much as possible. But it is impossible in the site of Halkoriya, and anyone who wishes to meditate must actually escape from this place to the forest or the fields just to find some silence… So the big paradox here in Halkoriya is, that so near to the greatest meditator of the world actually none can find enough peace and conditions to practice meditation!
We are aware that Guruji does not wanted this community here anymore, after Mahadarshan, and we think that the main reason is exactly the fact that most people here take his meditational practice as an entertainment, not a spiritual path to follow! We wish that you all think deeply about the consequences of your behavior and res pect all those who wish to meditate in Halkoriya.
2. Rubbish
In the West there is a powerful ecological movement, to keep our Earth free from rubbish which is artificial, like plastics. Plastics make many birds to die, because they swallow them. Plastics should be kept away from the jungle, and kept in rubbish bins, and then carried out of the site. We see that even people from the site leave much plastic rubbish in the jungle and the field.
3. Spitting
For international visitors the habit of spitting on the ground, even if speaking with someone, is very unpleasant. We have seen people blowing their noses into their palms and then washing our dishes… These habits are not only impolite, but also spread the bacteria of diseases to other people. For this reason Andy has bought handkerchiefs for blowing one’s nose, but we do not see many people to use them. This habit can be very difficult to accept by foreign visitors who plan to come for Mahapranidhan or Mahadarshan. We are asking you not to spit on the floor at least in the kitchen area and Guruji’s enclosed area, and not to blow your noses into your palms, with which you plan to cook food or similar.
Please think twice if your spitting habit is in the proper place, before you do it…
4. International visitors, especially from the West, have usually very strong ecological feeling, because we have destroyed many of our natural resources already, so we started to protect our forests and animals. But here in Nepal, it seems, ecology is still not taken very seriously. In our opinion a holy site where the most ecology-minded guru, Dharma Sangha, is meditating, should also carry the signs of his message of gentle behavior to the nature, plants, animals, trees. It is very easy to misbalance the harmony of nature. Our general point of you (apart from Milli) is, that:
– There should be no stone-concrete houses in the Halkoriya forest, if not especially requested by Guruji
– Only building from natural materials (bamboo, wood, clay) of tents should be here
– Any construction of a water pipe and tank is a too big change for the natural balance of this place
– We came to a conclusion that implementing fish from outside into Guruji’s pound was an insensitive decision, as this can disbalance the lake‘s flora and fauna
5. Everyone behaves very nice to us foreigners, but we have experienced that sometimes some Nepali people are not behaving to some others the best way. It seems that laughing at other people’s inabilities became a habit, which no one really minds. Also some intolerance to other people’s needs could be detected around us, like shouting at night when others are sleeping.
6. We have offered many times to help to carry drinking water from the spring, but we were always told that we must not go there and cannot help with the water. But then we saw many volunteers and even small children can go to the spring for drinking water. We do not really understand this type of discrimination, and what is the reason for it. So please explain us why we, foreigners, cannot take drinking water from the spring, and must rely on those who can. Many times there is not enough drinking water in the kitchens, and that creates situations when we have to ask someone else to carry water for us, just because we got thirsty. Many of us think that this is not right. All of us who are here have huge respect to Guruji’s wish, and would never afford to go inside the enclosed area without permission, and it is a kind of mistrust shown to us, compared to the trust of small children who can go there for water without any adults just like that…
7. As the warm weather is approaching and as we are quite a lot of people in the site at a regular basis, the issue of using the forest as a toilet starts to be more and more serious. Andy goes around picking up used toilet papers and burning them, but this should be done by all of us once a time. Also we should dig the things we leave behind into a hole and cover with earth, because there are many serious diseases which can be carried by flies from these to food, like dysentery, and some parts of the forest also smell a lot. For this reason we have discussed with Andy the possibility that everyone could have a small spade to use for toilet, so that the forest around us stays clean and safe. This would be an ecological solution, good for the forest and good for the people as well.
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Add star saynt2day<saynt2day@gmail.com> Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:23 PM
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Thank you, Marici. May I post some of your future reports on
etapasiv.com?
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Marici,
Nice to received your long experiences jungle work for human charity and by the ways did Guruji give you new name.
Om Namo Guru Buddha Gyani
Chong
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Dear Marici and LTJ:
Marici: deep, deep thank you for your message. I really appreciate
your comittment and all the detail you have shared about the mission
and your silence vow. I am very moved and grateful. Of course the same
deepest thanks to dear LTJ, how wonderful your vows and your sharing.
I am humbled.
Love,
Ka
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Marici hang in there – you are in the land of Oz (please emphasize the
wizard part)
What I am about to say may be off abit here and there yet from what I
remember and how I feel it ===
remember when you were at that restaurant somewhere in Poland and you
just met that man and you had both ordered and and you started talking
about spiritual things and when your wonderful, healthy, high
vibrating food that smelled and looked so good arrived neither of you
were hungry and hardly touched your food because of the spiritual high
that your connection caused. You are at the same Jungle that I was
recently being challenged in ways I know. A vow of silence that after
you choose to take it,you are being encouraged to continue. Learning
much and when you want to eat and are hungry you are somehow not
catered to and when you choose to fast everyone is concerned that you
are getting enough. Keep in mind you are very near one who is not
eating and drinking and is showing you the way. I am in know way
suggesting what you might do yet i am telling you to follow your heart
and know the way is profound and you have all the skills to follow the
path. it has led you right where you are and How amazing is that?
Flax Seed
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Marici
You Say
“Right now I just have this Mauna Vow, which is quite demanding. One
thing is sure: I am dedicating daily my whole life to this great
saint, and day by day I
have a greater respect, faith and love for him. It is just not
stopping, just growing gradually…”
“Will write you next time, and giving you reports instead of Andy, who
is leaving for Japan now.”
It is a Jungle out there and by reports you are in it. I am so glad
you are. You have taken your vow of silence (Mauna) that is so
amazing and it is to be respected. There was a day, being a manager
of this site, you greeted members, answered most every question,
counterbalanced philosophical questions and shared your most amazing
past with us. That is missed yet it is not up to any one of us to
fulfill that role – it is any one of us with compassion and a
willingness to serve others that allow any member to give that a
shot. I remember when you started doing that on your own.
I see you can communicate in writing yet with respect you do well to
minimize the twaddle, so to speak. You must be learning so much as
you have indicated in this thread. With Andrea/Jyampa Dolma in Japan
I am glad you are there with presence. I know if there is something
we need to know you will post it here. Keep in mind Semyon’s request
to post it on his site, if you feel it worthy include a permission.
I thought of you last night, when remembering that others say the
things to you that you wish to express. We have connected nicely in
the past and I wish I could do that with more ease. I remember how
you do not take kindly when we put words in your mouth in a
misrepresenting way. That must be challenging when someone speaks for
you and you vow to remain silent. In a way it is probably ok to allow
the twaddle exist as your inner tantra grows and you find that in
itself provides a continuity. I am sure you would have your own way
to say it and forgive me if that is shaping you when I want more to
just connect.
Know that you can say Hi with a blank page – on the other hand you
have provided a whole slew of paragraphs late last February. This is
March and I just noticed today is the New Moon 🙂 How Auspicious can
that be where you are from your perspective . . .
hmmmm the opposite of a hoooowwwllll is silence
Flax Seed
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Add star Catherine.Weber<weber.catherine.v@wanadoo.fr> Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 10:36 PM
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Warm greetings to all of you my dearest Dharma friends throughout the world!
It’s me Catherine, with a new name: Jyampa Lhashang, so generously given by our precious Dharma Sangha most surprisingly after that I made my vows in front of him together with Dawa, Veronique and Kim. (As some of you know, Dawa became Jyampa Yeshe, Kim became Jyampa Kidwen, and Veronique became Jyampa Tsyoshang. Marie-Soleil, who made her vows the day after with Ivy became Jyampa Lhamo, and Ivy became Jyampa Lhaden.)
The only reason for me not to have sent news until now since I returned was that I had to cope with several days of VERY slow recovery from an uneasy journey back home.
But, how you were in my heart, and how I was grateful to read everyone’s mail, Marici’s lovely reports, Jyampa Dolma’s (Andy), Jyampa Dorje’s(Michael), Flax Seed’s innumerous beautiful words as deep and supportive as always, etc, etc!
I could only manage to open all those mails and wait for my strength to knock at the door again at last. Today is the day!
I am back home and I miss Guruji, his family, the sounds and smells of the jungle around him, Khenpo and the lovely people working with him, Jyampa Yeshe’s(Dawa’s) loving family.
Thinking as I use to that I might die tomorrow so let it be without any regrets, I had to rush to Nepal and join my prayers to the ones of those who, like me, could work it out to be there.
All the time I believed that I was there on behalf of all of you who wanted but couldn’t work it out. I know that I took those vows of course in my name, but as if it were on behalf of many of you, and that I received the great present of this new and very desired name just as if it were you who did.
There is no illusion in my mind as to the fact that if all these blessings could be given to me, they were potentially given to you all the more! Just wait and see!
Marici, you were too kind to thank me for the very few things I managed to put in my travel bag. I was sorry actually that it was so little. Yet, it is a satisfaction to know how useful indeed they were, and that for instance, those humble scissors became the instruments of such a holy ceremony.
You and me had those deep eye’talks which prove that eyes manage to share what’s most important. I wish though you would let me know more about many of the aims and fruits of a vow of silence. How strong you are !
The embarrassment now for someone like me is to find a way to express without failure a gratitude and a joy for those moments, barefoot at dawn in a still very fresh and damp forest, near Dharma Sangha, which can’t refer to anything earthly, as the beauty of this realm is so completely “out of this world”!
What stays with me like an eternal blueprint : The wonder to catch a glimpse from the distance as you come closer and closer to the site, of one who was sitting there wrapped in a simple sheet over one shoulder through the cold night, keeping vigil and praying the deepest prayers for the world sake while you were trying to sleep long hours keeping as warm as possible inside tents by 5°C. His ceaseless calm countenance, his striking immobility which enhance the permanence of his outstanding access to the invisible world. Definitely, there is a chance when you approach his aura, to taste some of this elixir he tells us about in his marvellous Loving Great Prayers for World Peace.
Knowing no more how long was a second, and much less an hour, I wished though our earthly time would stop for good, and that we would be permitted to stay more and breathe in this sphere and grow with its pure nourishment. However, it was painfully obvious to me at times, in front of this perfectly transparent mirror that I had a long way to go to become pure and transparent myself. But His unfailing Maitri-loving-kindness gave me confidence that I could walk this path, though it looked sometimes like climbing the Everest.
A great support for our little Googlegroup bunch was that we shared with one another all the love in our hearts and instantly became a real spiritual family. It was so much fun and joy for me to share a little tent with Jyampa Kidwen. Last time I camped was at least 30 years ago… I had forgotten I was so tall !!! We became all the closer !
Jyampa Dolma has nourished us constantly with lots of stimulating news and stories, and constantly did all she could to open every possible door for us to receive unexpected blessings. She really acts as a spiritual mother for us all. Her presence and support to me was an extra blessing each and every day.
Jyampa Yeshe was a cream of kindness and devotion, never stopping making everyone feel comfortable and happy, and he came up with the treat of treats : an invitation to visit Dharma Sangha’s family. The whole Bamjon family made a wonderful impression on me. Their unshakable simplicity, humility and kindness means so much to me in terms of confirming how pure the foundation of Dharma Sangha has been all the way. We were invited in their humble home and they offered us a delicious meal. It was such a grace to sit for a while in Dharma Sangha’s tiny room : as extraordinarily holy as it is tiny, and sit with the parents in their humble bedroom-living room upstairs. The atmosphere was so lovely and homy that I would have gladly stayed and lived there with them. I miss them really.
Many tears of gratitude were shed by several of us there and at the first and second meditation sites where Jyampa Yeshe took us too. The awareness of receiving tremendous blessings of unique spiritual beauty was overwhelming.
We did our best to chant the prayers in phonetic Nepali, together with the thousands of Monks and local people gathered for four days. All the details and photos of this official part, you know already from other testimonies here and on etapasvi.com. I won’t go into it, besides saying what a grace it was to read them, understanding from the English version the depth and poetic beauty of Dharma Sangha’s unique expression. I just hope that I will have given my legs sufficient training for next time to sit on straw for four days. (Just so you know it was providing in my case all sorts of penance.)
Again, my deep love and gratitude to everyone I met in Nepal, and to all of you who around the world were absolutely there with us in heart and prayers, thank you so much for your support!
Jyampa Lhashang
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> A : “Ram Bomjon – Dharma Sangha”
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Add star michael<hisholiness_2001@yahoo.com> Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:19 AM
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Dear Sister Lhashang,
Your story was so beautifully put, It brought back so many great
memories. It meant so much to me that we were all there together. I
hope that we all get to see each other soon. Thanks for your warmth
and kindness.
Brother Dorje
Add star Jyampa Lhamo<jyampalhamo@yahoo.ca> Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 8:31 AM
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Dear Jyampa Lhashang,
What a touching letter you have written! You express so nicely how I feel about what we had experienced during these wonderful days! I would sign my name after yours for all those words and gratitudes that you share… 🙂
All the people we have met there were so wonderful and helpful, I miss them very much. And since I am back home, I feel a little bit like a stranger in this ordinary life. I try to stay in the present but my mind always takes me back in the past, when I was surrounded by my spiritual family, the beautiful nature and, of course, by our venerable Dharma Sangha.
Thank you, dear Sister, for so much Love and Gratitude.
With all my love and friendship,
Jyampa Lhamo (Marie-Soleil)
— En date de : Dim, 6.3.11, Catherine.Weber <weber.catherine.v@wanadoo.fr> a écrit :
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À : buddhaboy@googlegroups.com
Date: dimanche 6 mars 2011 11 h 51
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Add star Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com> Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM
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Marici
Call me slow but I just got the jist of that whole diamond/thunderbolt
thing you always refer to when talking about Dharma Sangha.
Vajrayana – the thunderbolt vehicle or the diamond vehicle – either
way you cut it – it cuts to the quick. We are surrounded by our own
minds projections. The diamond cuts through it the thunderbolt zaps
it and you are in the eye of the holder of the dorje. Nothing better
than that V O W you have for protection (from your own projections).
Empty and notice the duality that springs forth from your mind . . .
empty again. Not saying I could do it or handle it but you have found
your way there and no time like the present. If you see a tiger or an
elephant don’t worry it is probably just your mind. In fact enjoy
their beauty, Now if you see a Monkey then break your VOW and say to
it, a little less chatter please.
Flax seed
On Mar 6, 9:46 pm, Jyampa Lhamo <jyampalh…@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Dear Jyampa Lhashang,
>
> What a touching letter you have written! You express so nicely how I feel about what we had experienced during these wonderful days! I would sign my name after yours for all those words and gratitudes that you share… 🙂
>
> All the people we have met there were so wonderful and helpful, I miss them very much. And since I am back home, I feel a little bit like a stranger in this ordinary life. I try to stay in the present but my mind always takes me back in the past, when I was surrounded by my spiritual family, the beautiful nature and, of course, by our venerable Dharma Sangha.
>
> Thank you, dear Sister, for so much Love and Gratitude.
>
> With all my love and friendship,
>
> Jyampa Lhamo (Marie-Soleil)
>
> — En date de : Dim, 6.3.11, Catherine.Weber <weber.catherin…@wanadoo.fr> a écrit :
>
> De : Catherine.Weber <weber.catherin…@wanadoo.fr>
> Objet : re: [buddhaboy] From Marici
> À : buddhaboy@googlegroups.com
> Date: dimanche 6 mars 2011 11 h 51
>
> Warm greetings to all of you my dearest Dharma friends throughout the world! It’s me Catherine, with a new name: Jyampa Lhashang, so generously given by our precious Dharma Sangha most surprisingly after that I made my vows in front of him together with Dawa, Veronique and Kim. (As some of you know, Dawa became Jyampa Yeshe, Kim became Jyampa Kidwen, and Veronique became Jyampa Tsyoshang. Marie-Soleil, who made her vows the day after with Ivy became Jyampa Lhamo, and Ivy became Jyampa Lhaden.)
> The only reason for me not to have sent news until now since I returned was that I had to cope with several days of VERY slow recovery from an uneasy journey back home. But, how you were in my heart, and how I was grateful to read everyone’s mail, Marici’s lovely reports, Jyampa Dolma’s (Andy), Jyampa Dorje’s(Michael), Flax Seed’s innumerous beautiful words as deep and supportive as always, etc, etc! I could only manage to open all those mails and wait for my strength to knock at the door again at last. Today is the day! I am back home and I miss Guruji, his family, the sounds and smells of the jungle around him, Khenpo and the lovely people working with him, Jyampa Yeshe’s(Dawa’s) loving family.
> Thinking as I use to that I might die tomorrow so let it be without any regrets, I had to rush to Nepal and join my prayers to the ones of those who, like me, could work it out to be there. All the time I believed that I was there on behalf of all of you who wanted but couldn’t work it out. I know that I took those vows of course in my name, but as if it were on behalf of many of you, and that I received the great present of this new and very desired name just as if it were you who did. There is no illusion in my mind as to the fact that if all these blessings could be given to me, they were potentially given to you all the more! Just wait and see!
> Marici, you were too kind to thank me for the very few things I managed to put in my travel bag. I was sorry actually that it was so little. Yet, it is a satisfaction to know how useful indeed they were, and that for instance, those humble scissors became the instruments of such a holy ceremony.You and me had those deep eye’talks which prove that eyes manage to share what’s most important. I wish though you would let me know more about many of the aims and fruits of a vow of silence. How strong you are !
> The embarrassment now for someone like me is to find a way to express without failure a gratitude and a joy for those moments, barefoot at dawn in a still very fresh and damp forest, near Dharma Sangha, which can’t refer to anything earthly, as the beauty of this realm is so completely “out of this world”! What stays with me like an eternal blueprint : The wonder to catch a glimpse from the distance as you come closer and closer to the site, of one who was sitting there wrapped in a simple sheet over one shoulder through the cold night, keeping vigil and praying the deepest prayers for the world sake while you were trying to sleep long hours keeping as warm as possible inside tents by 5°C. His ceaseless calm countenance, his striking immobility which enhance the permanence of his outstanding access to the invisible world. Definitely, there is a chance when you approach his aura, to taste some of this elixir he tells us about in his
> marvellous Loving Great Prayers for World Peace. Knowing no more how long was a second, and much less an hour, I wished though our earthly time would stop for good, and that we would be permitted to stay more and breathe in this sphere and grow with its pure nourishment. However, it was painfully obvious to me at times, in front of this perfectly transparent mirror that I had a long way to go to become pure and transparent myself. But His unfailing Maitri-loving-kindness gave me confidence that I could walk this path, though it looked sometimes like climbing the Everest. A great support for our little Googlegroup bunch was that we shared with one another all the love in our hearts and instantly became a real spiritual family. It was so much fun and joy for me to share a little tent with Jyampa Kidwen. Last time I camped was at least 30 years ago… I had forgotten I was so tall !!! We became all the closer !
> Jyampa Dolma has nourished us constantly with lots of stimulating news and stories, and constantly did all she could to open every possible door for us to receive unexpected blessings. She really acts as a spiritual mother for us all. Her presence and support to me was an extra blessing each and every day. Jyampa Yeshe was a cream of kindness and devotion, never stopping making everyone feel comfortable and happy, and he came up with the treat of treats : an invitation to visit Dharma Sangha’s family. The whole Bamjon family made a wonderful impression on me. Their unshakable simplicity, humility and kindness means so much to me in terms of confirming how pure the foundation of Dharma Sangha has been all the way. We were invited in their humble home and they offered us a delicious meal. It was such a grace to sit for a while in Dharma Sangha’s tiny room : as extraordinarily holy as it is tiny, and sit with the parents in their humble
> bedroom-living room upstairs. The atmosphere was so lovely and homy that I would have gladly stayed and lived there with them. I miss them really. Many tears of gratitude were shed by several of us there and at the first and second meditation sites where Jyampa Yeshe took us too. The awareness of receiving tremendous blessings of unique spiritual beauty was overwhelming. We did our best to chant the prayers in phonetic Nepali, together with the thousands of Monks and local people gathered for four days. All the details and photos of this official part, you know already from other testimonies here and on etapasvi.com. I won’t go into it, besides saying what a grace it was to read them, understanding from the English version the depth and poetic beauty of Dharma Sangha’s unique expression. I just hope that I will have given my legs sufficient training for next time to sit on straw for four days. (Just so you know it was providing in my case
> all sorts of penance.)
> Again, my deep love and gratitude to everyone I met in Nepal, and to all of you who around the world were absolutely there with us in heart and prayers, thank you so much for your support!Jyampa Lhashang
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Add star Ricky Chong<thchong22@yahoo.com> Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:47 AM
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Jyampal Dorje/Michael,
I am happy and i always pray your healthy, happiness all your teaching journey from Guru Dharma Sangha..Om Namo Guru Buddha Gyani
Chong
Malaysia
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THIS ONE IS A VERY PRACTICAL, BUT MAYBE FUNNY OR INTERESTING TO LOOK
BACK AT MY SENSELESS EFFORTS IN IMPROVING CONDITIONS IN HALKORIA….
marici
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List of suggestions of international devotees raised at the meeting of local
“inhabitants of the Halkoriya settlement” (about 20 people currently),
presented by Khenpo:
*Reason of making this list of suggestions*:
*We, foreigners would like to express our thanks for your hospitality,
friendliness and that you all are so kind to us. Thanks to your behavior to
us we can feel here like at home. There are only a few things, which we
collected and discussed, by which we think we could make this place more
faithful to Dharma Sangha’s message. Because, after all, he is the only and
main reason we all are here, though sometimes some people maybe tend to
forget… *
*So we foreigners decided to hand over a list of soft suggestions to the
local devotees, by which, we are convinced; we better fulfill the teachings
of Dharma Sangha. After spending here some weeks, we have found some
elements in the behavior of people to each-other, to the animals and the
forest, which elements are in our opinion not in tune with Dharma Sangha’s
wish. Let us please express them, so that you can also see how we feel about
the atmosphere of Halkoriya, and how seriously we take our Guru’s words. We
are learning a lot of things from the spiritual traditions of Nepal, as well
as Guruji’s teaching, and in exchange we would like to offer some positive
aspects of the Western lifestyle and approach. For example, in the West we
have devastated our nature so much, that nowadays people already started to
understand how important it is to keep our nature, forests, fields, animals
etc. away from the influence of human lifestyle, chemicals, rubbish etc. The
West has already enjoyed a materially comfortable lifestyle, and yet people
did not get happier. So, for example, many international visitors who are
here now or will come in the future could be quite disappointed to find out
that here can be a big emphasis on external signs of material richness, and
that many local people associate spirituality with richness, fame here. *
*Please understand that we foreigners have all travelled thousands of
kilometers, prepared many years and spent many resources and left our family
members for long time just to be able to be near to Dharma Sangha, and for
us this place is a holy land. We are taking seriously each of his words and
teachings. But we are sad that many devotees in Halkoriya tend to forget
that the main reason why we are all here, which is only Dharma Sangha and
his teachings. We are not here in Halkoriya for entertainment, worldly
pleasures, comfort or possessing material objects. *
*Please do understand that we, the four international visitors, have
sacrificed our jobs, time spent with family etc. just to be able to come
here and spend time here, and it is very sad that we do not see local people
to follow Dharma Sangha‘s moral rules in everyday life, and especially his
call for serious spiritual practice. This atmosphere can be strongly
demoralizing and deterring for those international visitors who plan to
visit Halkoriya in the future, and if you wish more foreigners to come here
and stay, we are asking you to reconsider certain points of your behavior to
each other, to the animals and the plants of the jungle. We would like to
emphasize that we fully understand the words of Dharma Sangha, according to
which Dharma is not an outer system or organization, but Dharma must come
from inside each person. *
*So this list of suggestions is just a collection of our ideas, how to keep
the words and teachings of Dharma Sangha at this site. We are also afraid
that the behavior of people here to each other, animals and the forest is
exactly the reason why did Dharma Sangha decide to move the people of this
settlement to Ratanpuri after the Mahadarshan. So let’s everyone reconsider
how much do we follow his teachings and how seriously we take him, and
question ourselves if we are willing start to take his spiritual message
seriously. *
1. We all asking you not to kick into the dogs and cats, not to torture them
by teasing. Some of us have seen 4 very serious incidents of torturing dog
puppies and kittens!! Please respect that this place is a holy place and
Guruji loves animals. Any suffering of an animal which we cause creates a
bad karma, even if it seems a good fun for us: animals take it seriously and
for them it is a traumatic experience.
2. In the beginning of his meditational practice Dharma Sangha once
complained that „MY ALL LIFE’S PRACTICE IS MADE JUST AN ENTERTAINMENT IN THE
EYES OF PEOPLE“
Let us always remind ourselves that all the time he is in deep ascetic
meditation, while many people at the site listen to pop-music, spend their
time on plain talks and chatter, are very noisy …. etc. Please every time
you are spending your time in plain entertainment, noisy chatter etc.,
realize why are we here, and that there is the guru in this forest who is
sitting alone in the cold and sacrificed everything for our liberation…. If
we are really here for Guruji, then we should respect what he is doing for
all humankind, and at least to try to follow his spiritual practice and
behavior. Please be aware, that many international followers who come here
and plan to come are interested in a *meditative atmosphere* and not a place
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are asking you not to spit on the floor at least in the kitchen area and
Guruji’s enclosed area, and not to blow your noses into your palms, with
which you plan to cook food or similar.*
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