With bleeding heart

With bleeding heart

 

marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM
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With bleeding heart I am departing from this game
Is God the traitor of His own principles?
Does God need to use sinful actions to fulfil His purpose?
People are able to use even Dharma as a sword to kill.
Even in the name of Humility they are willing to harm.
Repeating like parrots the Rules and Regulations which never existed.
They are full of fear to call black what is black and white what is white.
Greed for enlightenment makes them step on others souls.
In the name of Dharma make obstacles for others enlightenment.
Upside down is this world now and lost its face.
When Gods are called demons and demons worshipped as good.
Any pride and violence and manipulation is called holy,
When done in the name of Dharma.This is not my world and not my game.
I know God you are testing me, if I endure.
You are holding this cup full of poison and saying: drink, this is honey!
You want me to stop believing in good, truth and love.With bleeding heart I am departing from you, mirage,
You can destroy and kill me, go on, enjoy the trance,
Turn against me all the world, all the ignorance you find,
Show me the emptiness of ethics, the emptiness of love,But even if you yourself turn against your own light,
I will still not turn aside from you.
Let you shout in my ears that goodness is death,
I will still not turn back from you.
Jump in front of my eyes like the demon of falseness,
Wave your sword and chase me away with an army of the ignorant,
I will still sing the song of trust in truth.
Whatever realm you chase my soul away.–
मरीचि marīci
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Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com > Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:45 PM
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Call me evil Call me good
I ask for your God to bless you
I ask for you to receive my prayer
I light A Candle for your healing heart
May you know both sides
May God’s light peak through the crust
May you see the crust as God
Today is Now
Let Tomorrow be another day.http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=pldBarry- Show quoted text –
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giov<maha@telus.net > Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:36 PM
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Dear Marici,
I often imagined being there, standing quietly out of the way, not demanding a blessing. If DS does not demand a blessing, why should we?  No, it seemed proper to be there in the same spiritual state as I am here, just giving and exercising the heart which creates endless patience and tolerance.  Had I seen and realized the errors you have seen, the injustice to you and others who are different from what convention already expects, I would have tired to comfort you with the joyous freedom of the non-religious devotee of simple and pure loving-kindness, the harmless of doves, as Jesus said, and the wisdom of a serpent.  It seems plain that the cobwebs of old religious trappings stick to this miracle as they have to all the human crowds and traditions following all our great spiritual heroes.  Please realize the world is sick and outside the clear injustice to the heart that is close to you experience, there are dreadful behaviors all around the world while we suffer the collective results of human weakness and error and very bad karma.  The more we know and realize, the more we will suffer looking at what is knowing what could be, comparing it to the reality of abundant life to which our heart is connected.  I did not want to warn, for fear of adding some kind of ‘negativity’, and of course being berated for that, because most people are invested in maintaining a pure unspotted optimism about DS in which He can do no wrong and He can and will do everything right and He will save everything.  Well, the efforts of countless avatars and heros have fallen ineffective in history when their ‘followers’ immediately got busy with all religious forms and regulations of control, appearance, behaviors, speech and elaborate dogma.  DS must somehow fit our current age or too many will grieve and be disappointed at what could be but is not.  Anyhow at the end of these jotted notes of mine please, Marici know how much many of us here respect you and wish you to be strong as you go through difficult lessons and trials.  Stand strong. We stand with you.  We have seen no reason *ever* to doubt your integrity, honesty, good intentions and desire to help and honor MVDS.
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SilburySoul<lageneraldomestique@gmail.com > Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:18 PM
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I remember when way back to the age of about 7 or 8 years old
Just after our bedtime story, my was about to leave the room
she switched out the light & suddenly i was struck with fear.
“mum” I called out .. “yes honey?”
“Are monsters real?” – I asked with utter sincerity
“Of course not honey, go to sleep”At this i was still scared but had no choice other than to find comfort in her words.
These days i realise she was probably wrong, and that “monsters” are indeed real.
so Where do they exist?No not under my bed as i thought at the time…Today i see that everyone has a monster on one shoulder & an angel on the other.
Some listen more to the Angel. Some listen more to the monster.So remember when faced with difficult situations and difficult people, that the Angels can only see the light.. in a dark place turn to their advice & you will no longer be fearful… the monsters exists only to torment you further… just ignore it and let the light guide you towards itself. Admittedly cultivating this much compassion proves extremely difficult, but as buddha said”There has to be evil so that good can prove its purity above it”No matter how loudly the monsters are shouting and tormenting smile with the angels and hope then fearlessness in love will blossom. It is up to all of us to allow a compassionate platform for the progression to occur, or else.As buddha said “There has to be evil so that good can prove its purity above it”
“We should not be afraid to see our faults and mistakes because only then can be corrected. People who fail to see their own mistakes will not be able to change for the better”Gentle reminders might not work against the sword, but why are their swords being drawn in the first place may i ask?
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Helen Tam-Semmens<htamsemmens@gmail.com > Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:00 PM
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Dear Marici,Love is all around you, you see
May you give me your bleeding, and you keep the heart
All religions wear the clothing of society, if it were not this, then that
A free spirit could feel restricted
And occasionally others tie it a little too tight, and say you fall short
For God’s sake, it is only clothing
I wear mine, in all silliness
and laugh at myself in the mirror tooMay the increased murkiness around you prompts you to flower like a
lotus, untouched by all the illusions.Love ya,
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Catherine.Weber<weber.catherine.v@wanadoo.fr > Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:43 PM
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My dear sister Marici,
it is to this unperfect world that messengers, healers, teachers of the Dharma are sent.
With each person that comes to receive TMV Dharma Sangha’s holy blessing, it is this unperfection that they display in front of his pure eyes, no matter their achievements, eventhough they try their best and promise to become better people.When I came to him, I felt so unworthy and impure that I would rather hide than be spiritually naked in front of him. But knowing he was there to help me out of my obscurations, I thought I better face the unpleasant fact that I was far less enjoyable to contemplate than Pureland. I swallowed my shame and grabbed his loving hand, reminding myself that if I had reached this place, there was some good reasons for this in the heart of Guruji too.Sister, you have been so precious to us to this day. Please, don’t let your passionate nature depress you and dramatize over humakind which since thousands of years has not yet overcome unperfection, mean habits, blindness and couldn’t stop being self-destructive, even after the coming of Buddhas and Christ and countless wise prophets.
Since we are all more or less far from the ultimate goal, let us rather meet one another giving one another the credit of being very good and very loved by Guruji for some good reasons.I am glad that Giov and Flax Seed have said to you many things I wished to say too.
Yours always,
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Devin Beu<porksoda01@hotmail.com > Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:54 AM
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this is sooo beautiful!thank you for thisDate: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:11:27 +0545
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Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com > Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:18 AM
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I am impressed Devin Beu saw beauty in Marici’s Bleeding heartWhen most would not see that.
As I think of the many she is judging I feel very bad.
As I think of her going through what she is I feel bad.
The beauty is that it indicates she is getting through it.
To read and reread it seems that way
that all will be well
in the morning
That is the best spin that we can give.I hope the Sangha Survives
I support all in the jungle
If I was there I would be learning about self also.
It isn’t always pretty
That is why we have been given 8 Morals
we have a new definition of twaddle.
As one side of the story comes out there will be another side
It is all Twaddle.
It is hard to find the middle way here
many are straining to keep sides from emerging.
If that place is the Garden of Eden –
I would think a there will be an exodus.
When the goal is the Pureland
And that has everything to do with Liberation
Not sounding the alarm that a religion is starting
Liberation has to do with working on the self.The way I see it from what I would be going through.
We can deal with Mara during meditation as Siddhartha did
Or deal with Mara in our daily activity
projecting our self into characters that we choose.
We should not judge our self harshly
and we should not judge others harshly
As we forgive others we can Know God
More importantly here we need to forgive Self.As we get closer to awakening we do well not to judge.
When our enemy within becomes our friends
the judgements can be harmful.
Husband’s and Wife’s go through this
as they sense awareness within and blame the projection
rather then face that awareness and forgive self.
Family Members go through this.In this case it is being enacted in this Sangha
I hope the next song that is sung is of apology and forgiveness.Flax SeedOn Jun 8, 3:09 pm, Devin Beu <porksod…@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Lobsang Sherab<jrocka83@gmail.com > Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:35 PM
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Dear Marici,Every silver lining has a touch grey. Thank you for sharing your
thoughts. They are not ugly, they are beautiful. I am becoming aware,
not being judgmental, that I will not serve someone’s ego. I am no
saint, I believe in spiritual progress not perfection. I am imperfect
and can not snap my fingers and suddenly be perfected in practice. I
have heard from a personal source, that some are actually out to harm
others. Guru is aware of this, he is aware of everything. I have come
to peace with myself that my cigarette smoking is not going anywhere
right now. Regardless, the miracle of being able to give everything up
all in an instant hasn’t happened for me yet. As a matter of fact, I
smoked 2 cigarettes just 30 mins before receiving darshan from Guru.
Not on the site of course. However, that was the first and only time
that I received the Biggest Warmest Smile from Guru. I finally
accepted that I am not ready to give it up yet, and stopped feeling
guilty about it.Anyways as terrible of a writer I am. There are some of my random
scattered thoughts.If I can meditate 15 mins. a day every day. That is a miracle.Love,Lyndon
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Mark Dittmer<mark@dittmer.ca > Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:15 AM
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Dear Marici,I wish for you only peace, love, and happiness! I hope you’ll remain close to us on the group.-MarkShow quoted text –

 

marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:45 AM
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Dear Lyndon, Mark and everyone,Of course I stay with this Group in my heart, you were so kind to me, it moved me to tears, and I don’t even know what would I do without the Internet and GG in this heavy situation. I would feel very lonely among all those who accuse me, but on the other hand I do not depend on them, especially after I had to move out not only from Halkoria, but also from the house of Waiba, as the pressure on him and me from my enemies was unbearable. So I am always walking with open eyes and heart, and meet new people, and get new hope that this world is still not going to be destroyed because of the sins of those who call themselves spiritual.Thank you for all the moral support you are giving me, which only proves to me that if we follow God’s principles, justice and truthfulness, and if our intention is un-selfish and self-sacrificing for others, God will never leave us alone even in the harshest times. Thank you all that you fortified my trust in Goodness and Truthfullness, and my power to endure these hard times, waiting for the wind of change patiently. If this wind will be a gentle breeze or a wild tornado, is in the hands of those who are presently creating the Dharma for the future. Right now I can hear the anger of the gods’ roar too loudly…You have still some time. Not much though. I am choosing non-involvement and not-participating in the physical/material/external/institutional sangha, as my best intentions to save what can be saved, were poisoned by wrong-wishers.But this Google Group was always the matter of heart for me, and “my” Dharma Sangha is the one I have met thanks to you. This virtual sangha is my real sangha, and as Guruji is unaccesible for me even as I am physically present in Nepal, surrounded by a thick wall of “rules and regulations” made up by those who think He is their property, I am forced to connect to the non-body Dharma Sangha I knew from my dreams and meditations… 

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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:43 AM
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Dear … 

,As I will be mostly offline in the near future, I don’t know how long,
I am forwarding to you some of my older texts, to add to your
collection of my writings for the book you have written about. You
could also ask some longtime GG members to forward some of my reports
which I used to send from March 2011 to Andrea who censored them
strongly before copying them to GG, but still there is some
information about the events and situations during that time, when I
was the only longtime foreigner in Halkoria.marici———- Forwarded message ———-
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:04 PM
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Dear my virtual family – May 27, 2011

marici<zutakac@gmail.com> Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:09 AM
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Dear my virtual family, Many thanks to all of you for your quick and detailed response. I think today I do not go early to the event, but will work on the presentation, so that I can ask someone to translate it to Nepali. It is a difficult decision to refrain from something what I know I could do the best way – being permanently here (others come and go), having a permanent internet from home (NCell), having a portable laptop and having relatively good knowledge of English… If anyone can replace me in reporting and fulfil all these requirements, I will be only happy. But if I see that those who had accused me of harming Guruji by my reports, will be reluctant to sacrifice time and means to share what is happening in Nepal on this Group, and if there is a request from GG members that I continue or that my reports are really needed, than I will, of course, not leave you without news.Because I remember how hungry I used to be for any tiny news about Guruji, when Andy was here and I was in Europe… Even one photo and one sentence (though object to the above mentioned mistakes and wrong visions, as we all are) could make my day happy… So now it is the time of changes and time to proof that the new generation of reporters can carry the fire burning. marici

 

Darren_86<yitmin_86@yahoo.com> Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:42 AM
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Oh God, this is becoming silly. I believe Marici mean of New reporter as being new age reporter; in the sense of a blogger, that represents her personnal views; which so far I have not seen any that are harming DS image in the GG group. And I personally would not give in to any autocratic authorisation (harressment), in preventing and harrassing others from expressing their views on this issue. DS is not a private property; which should be remembered by all. The GG group cherished its member’s input, and to refrain others from commenting is a breach of civil rights. DS would in the near coming months comes up and teach the truth, and I believe by then, things will be as clear as spring water. So lets us all treat everyone with respect without discrimination (not only on race, religion and caste, but a total respect in other’s view and expression) and let DS take the lead which would clear the air by itself. By coming, directing and teaching others as per our own instinct, knowledge and diplomatic view will never be in the spirit of Maitri and non-discrimination. -Darren-

 

saynt2day

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Dear Marici, 1) Many people are/were on the Event. More than week already passed from the beginning, but only from you and guy by name “Nick Fackler” (http://paldendorje.com/en/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=34:news) we got some details about it. 2) There are several rules in programming, one of them – decomposition of big issue into small pieces. What about asking people, which sentences of your posts are harming Dharma Sangha (1 – …, 2 – …). and discussing those items, if such ones will be found. 3) You better than me know what to do (listen to your heart and go on))- Show quoted text –

 

 

marici

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Dear Darren, Many thanks for your words about DS not being a private property and about my civil rights! Yes, I totally agree with you. But the spirit of Maitri is SLOWLY taking shape in the human world, Guruji said in one of his older speeches, ONLY VERY SLOWLY. Censorship and fanaticism can be hardly called spirit of Maitri. If people need to harm others “in the name of God”, that is not the spirit of Maitri, just another newly formed religion, imposing on others the ways of bowing before authorities. I hope with all my heart that this time it will not slip into “fatwas”, “holy crusades” or degrading priesthood… This time it must be different! Let’s pray for the purity of Maitreya’s message! This Group was always supporting free speech, democratic ideas, freedom of opinion and religion. Let’s keep the habit… Dear Semyon, “decomposition of big issue into small pieces. What about asking people, which sentences of your posts are harming Dharma Sangha (1 – …, 2 – …). and discussing those items, if such ones will be found.” I did, but: 1, they did not let me speak in that car where the accusation took place, jumping into every second word I tried to say 🙂 2, if I managed to squeeze some words, they did not listen to them with their mind, just repeated their own things, not reacting really, when I asked them to show me one sentence at least which would claim that my post is the whole translation, or even an authorized one! 3, when I objected, that only one of those 3 people actually did read my post on the internet, and even that person had just a little time for it, so the glimpse was very superficial, they did not thing this could have been the cause of all the misunderstanding. But I am convinced it was. Just misunderstanding. Most conflicts among people are based on some stupid mistake… People are not bad, they are only ignorant, superficial or lazy. The rest is done by demonic forces, which use such people (or rather such states of mind of all people sometimes) for creating intrigues and controversy. So I am not angry with them for how they have attacked me in that car, three against one, without any space for self-explanation, but I see clearly the evil forces’ celebration. They are celebrating but actually celebrating the “nothing” – because nothing of the accusations had any real base, as most of you confirmed after reading my post (which even in the title carries a warning that it is not “THE” translation, but “ABOUT” the speech). Another fact is that noone informed me a translation group is formed and Speech is being translated. I bumped into Pragya for another reason, and only then he told that those people in the corner are working on a translation, and I can join. I checked the texts and found it very good, especially Sherpa Lama as a very suitable person to help, so there was no reason for me to join, I was satisfied with the quality. But it was already when I knew half of the Speech (what was it ABOUT), and this one had only a few sentences ready that time… So why not to share what I already knew? Andy and Flax, My post was a reaction of pure intention on many emails from GG asking for the translation of the speech, and when the last of these asked to share what was the speech ABOUT, at least, if nothing, then I decided to share what I knew so far from Darshan. The Highest knows that I wished so much to help those devoted people, just to get a glimpse at least. For me the requests of GG members are like commands. I was also once in Europe, eagerly awaiting every word or photo from Andy, Mark Dittmer or you Flax, people who were here before… I know this feeling very well, when one cannot even sleep without getting the news about Guruji… I came here to serve people and share them the light I receive. All my action was led by this single wish. If it harmed any frames and forms, authorities and hierarchies, ceremonies and traditions, castes or positions, dogmas or rules and regulations… than sorry for not being part of such a strict universe! Will never be, actually… I did not come to Nepal to replace Catholicism, Islam or Buddhism with a new religion. I came to find the spirit of Maitreya in the Blessed One. As long as I know that my post never harmed any sentient being, all of us can go to sleep now and have a nice dream, wake up for a new day full of light, and forget about our mistakes and leave the demons of intrigues out of our lives. Forever yours, marici 2011/5/28, Flax Seed <ryder.barry@gmail.com>:- Show quoted text –

 

Presenting Google Group at Mahadarshan?

 

Presenting Google Group at Mahadarshan? 

 

marici

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Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:09 AM
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Dear Group,
While I am slowly collecting your names for the “GG-name-list-khada”, a plan is forming in my head: I wish to present our Group at the Mahadarshan program, to introduce our history and basic facts, and to bring into Guruji’s and all Nepali devotees attention how many people in the world is connected to him! There are things which I get in my mind out of the blue and I know I must do them, and this is one of such things.

But because my internet connection is very weak for this research, I would like to ask you, especially old members like Andy and Barry, to help me to write this introductory text. Then I will ask Darshan or Sherpa Lama to translate it to Nepali and present GG publicly to DS and the crowd. Also to offer English speaking Nepalis to join. my main intention is, of course, to emphasize to Guruji how much we love him, follow his teachings and support him.

So please, help me with these details:

When was the GG founded and by whom?

How many members do we have now and how many are active from these?

How many countries are involved and which ones?

How many “extra” devotees are in Etapasavi, Youtube and FB?

Into how many languages is Etapasvi translated?

If you have any other important information, please also add. The text would be something like this (please correct the text to be more English):

In …. we have found the Google Group dedicated to Dharma Sangha, with the intention of spreading updated information to everyone who is interested in him, and to share experiences, photos and videos connected to him and to associated spiritual teachings. The Group received a big boost from Andrea Good (Jyampa Dolma)’s visit of Dharma Sangha in 2008, who became one of the managers, and shared with us her photos, articles and translations of Dharma Sangha’s speeches.

The Group is formed by mostly intellectual and educated members, most of whom have already some spiritual background and many of them many years of spiritual activity. We do not distinguish among religions and do not refuse any right spiritual path, so our members are  from Christian, Buddhist, Hindu and even secular background, some of them are practitioners of yoga, alternative healing, reiki, aromatherapy. We accept everyone with an open heart, who can contribute to the uplifting atmosphere of our virtual global family. In case of members who write offending or aggressive words, we can proudly state that the managers tried to manage always to keep the rule of ahimsa, and our philosophy is not to ban even such people. The general mood of our discussions is thus most of the time joyful and mutually supporting. For many members who could not visit Guruji for financial or family reasons, our Google Group became the most important means to stay connected.

We are sharing our mystical experiences with Dharma Sangha, supporting each-other, some of us write poems or compose songs, or write books… Our Group does not isolate itself from other spiritual masters and paths, so we educate each-other by providing website links and information on valuable spiritual books and films.

Our Group was the starting point for many visitors of Dharma Sangah in Nepal, as we are exchanging updated and quick information even on practical issues of the travel. Recently our Group plays an important role in correcting and crystalizing the English version of Maitreya Great Prayers.

Recently, due to great interest, we hav eformed also a Japanese GG and XXXX (Spanish? Italian?)

Our GG is connected to other website sources on Dharma Sangha, like the http://www.paldendorje.com webiste, the http://www.etapasvi.com website (translated into XXX languages), the Facebook page dedicated to Dharma Sangha, Andrea Good’s Youtube website. We would like Dharma Sangha to know how much we appreciate his mission and example, and also to let Nepalis know how many people in the world envy their good karma of being born in this holy land of Maitreya.

We are inviting to join our Group everyone who has good intentions with Dharma Sangha, and who speaks English and by this presentation we would like to humbly ask Dharma Sangha to bless our global virtual Group and the khada which carries the names of some of our members.

— मरीचि marīci

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marici

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Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:11 AM
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Also pls write me the exact links for GG, FB, Youtube etc.
Thank you.

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Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:49 AM
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I am very honored to be here with you and thanks to you, Marici, Dolma and Barry for preparing this report in order to bring joy to DS as well as our infinite gratitude. Catherine-J-L
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:-)2011/5/25 Catherine.Weber <weber.catherine.v@wanadoo.fr >

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And please, Marici, could you on my behalf thank Ivy-J-Lhaden for the invaluable gift she shares with the world to channel details of the Gods and goddesses visiting Guruji ? Thank you Marici, kind and dedicated messenger between the holy grounds of Ratanpuri and Holkoriya and us, Catherine-J-L
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Dear Marici, I’m sure many of us are thanking you for your good idea and your ability to accomplish it for the group.  I think it will enhance the gladness of Guruji and all the ones who will hear it, to realize this hidden community who also honors Him.  What you have written is basically very good, I think  You are now such a good and precious link for us. Metta giov- Show quoted text –

 

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When was the GG founded and by whom?Google Group was founded on July 13, 2007 by Brad Grace nicknamed Mu.

The first message reads:

 

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This group has been created to gather a small community of people who  are interested in information regarding Ram Bomjon (aka Palden Dorje)  and his ongoing 6 year meditation. Please join in, pass on any new  information or photo’s you may have.

Thanks!

Brad

 

How many members do we have now and how many are active from these?

 

We have 726 members.

I would say at least 50 regular message writers.

We have approximately 400 messages a month.

 

How many countries are involved and which ones?

There is no way of telling how many countries.  But we are from all continents all over the world.

 

How many “extra” devotees are in Etapasavi, Youtube and FB?

 

YouTube has had at least a million views of videos concerning Dharma Sangha.

My own site “Khenpo Dharma” has had about 150,000 views.

According to insights, 59% are male and 41% are female viewers in all age groups averaging ages 40~60.

Africa still has the least views whereas England and the USA have the most viewers followed by Canada and Australia, then Europe, Thailand, Russia and Japan.

Into how many languages is Etapasvi translated?

11 languages

 

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http://www.youtube.com/user/KhenpoDarma?feature=mheehttp://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy

http://www.etapasvi.com/en/

http://www.youtube.com/user/etapasvi

http://www.youtube.com/user/BuddhaBoyVideos

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*How many countries are involved and which ones?*     There is no technical instruments to check it. We are from one country – Earth:) *How many “extra” devotees are in Etapasavi, Youtube and FB?*     FB -299 members. etapasvi visitors overview available here: http://m.maploco.com/details/3542bmdt *Into how many languages is Etapasvi translated?*     10- Show quoted text –
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Andrea Good

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A Message from Andrea Good, Manager and former owner ofRam Bomjon/Dharma Sangha Google GroupNamo Buddhaya

Namo Dharmaya

Namo Sanghaya

Arya Maitreya Nath, Arya Tara, Arya Lokeshvara,

Guru Ishta Deva, Dakiniharulai Namasakar Garchu.

Sabai Dharmako Sangha pani Namasakar Garchu.

Sabai Jagat Praniharu ko sukkhamra mukti ko nimti aphno sharir, vachan, atma samarpid gardaichu.

Om Namo Guru Buddha Dharma Sanghaya!

 

When Brad Grace began our Google Group in July of 2007, it was in playful curiosity.  Our group for many months had a humorous air about it that invited diverse members from many religions. While going through my earlier posts I feel much remorse about many of the things I said.  If I had understood what I understand now, my messages would not have been  the egoistic, joking, unauthorized nonsense that they were.  I hope that Parampuja Dharma Sangha Ju will forgive me and that I am following the right path to making repairs for these wrong views.  Yet we feel deeply that the guidance of Guruji was always present in the formation of our group.  We made it a point never to over emphasize any particular spiritual path, and although we were following a very serious Tapasvi.  We were also mostly reasonable people who could not really imagine how anyone could possibly go without food and water, and yet we also had an ever present feeling that the young Tapasvi we were following was very real.  By December of 2007, our group had made a shift from idle curiosity to realizing that Guruji was actually meditating with us in mind to allay our loneliness and suffering.

In 2008, we made friends with Suman Waiba, owner of Guruji’s first official site, Paldendorje.com . Suman Waiba our first and important gateway to communication with the Samiti.  Then, guidance from Guruji led me to meet Jyampa Yeshe, Ngima Dawa Tamang jojo, who became such a dear and valuable guide to the group.  After receiving blessings from Guruji in Nepal November of 2008, our group increased greatly in size, and the number of very serious members became apparent. We also received a new and important member, Semyon, a young Russian man, who, after considering that he would like to form an internet site dedicated to the highest living entity on Earth then heard about  TMV Dharma Sangha and subsequently created Etapasvi.com.  We were no longer afraid to express our adoration of Our Dearest Dharma Sangha, nor afraid to accept the truth of the greatness of our Tapasvi. Since joining the group in October 23, 2007 I have taken complete refuge in The Most Venerable Dharma Sangha and was very pleased to become an Upassika on the 18th of February, 2011. I hope to fulfill the happy duties of my vows throughout my life.

Now many of the active members of our group are upassika, and we are very pleased that Jyampa Dorje, Guruji’s first international monk also posts messages regularly. Our dear manager, Marici, is also the main reporter and resides near our Most Beloved Dharma Sangha.  This news is also passed on to our Japanese Google Group which now has 32 members and to the world through Etapasvi in eleven languages.

May the teachings of Om Namo Guru Buddha Gyani reach the world and bring peace, happiness, freedom and prosperity.

Sarva Mangalam Astu

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Flax Seed

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I can provide data yet keep in mind that Joe (Present Owner) and LTJ (0ne of 5 Managers) has a better grasp of much of this and Mu (Brad Grace) – the originator – is still a member here.. First message ever with the date: July 13 2007: http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/browse_frm/month/2007-07 July 13 2007, 7:48 pm This group has been created to gather a small community of people who are interested in information regarding Ram Bomjon (aka Palden Dorje) and his ongoing 6 year meditation. Please join in, pass on any new information or photo’s you may have. Thanks! Brad Grace First person to respond to Brad (Mu) was Joe our present owner. http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/browse_frm/month/2007-08 An early message from Joe to Mu (Brad Cross) Oct 30 2007: Mu, Thank you. Much/most of what you have been saying has spoken to me in a very deep in spiritual way… Or I am lost in a tremendous self delusion… How do I lift the veil to see myself as I am. Must I simply be the hen? Must I let the self delusion fly from my open hand? Is there anything that could help me here? As to the other members here… my apologies if this has distracted you… but I hope/and believe you will understand. With all the love I have, Joe Lyndon also known as (Lobsang Sherab) was the 3rd responder also joined that month and from what I know is with you (Marici) now planing to become a monk. His first message Aug 15 2007, Hi Everyone,  My name is Lyndon. I support Ram 100%. I will spend much of my time meditating and preparing for his message. He should be complete his meditation in the 2011 or 2012 time frame. This also aligns with the year of great spiritual accession through out the world. The Mayans predicted it 3000 years ago, for the exact date of December 23rd 2012. I believe Ram is the Avatar and a key role in the transformation of a new world. According to the Christian bible, there has to a Thousand years of peace before he end of the world. I believe ram is to bring about this 1,000 years of peace on earth. But there has to be great tribulations before the 1,000 years of peace, Like war, famine, flood, natural disasters. I believe this time is now. If we survive the tribulations, we will be truly blessed to live in this time period. Lyndon http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/browse_frm/month/2007-8?scoring=d&amp; Love Truth Joy – Andrea Good (LTJ D) Joined later that year in October 2007: It was just after his first speech in August  and Her first message. Oct 24 2007 I care. Thank you for letting me join you.  I have been watching this group for some time.  Ram is undoubtedly an avatar.  However we must remember that Avatars are not born enlightened.  They must achieve enlightenment again.  It is this process, marga, which gives us something to learn from and imitate.  Likewise, Avatars are born normal human beings and must learn in the same way we do, and that includes orational skills.  This helps all our understanding.  Ram is neither magical or a form of entertainment as he points out.  He is devoting his life to the Dharma.  He is born with the memory of his past enlightenment and a profound desire to aid in the salvation of sentient beings.  May we help him and find our own marga. LoveTruthJoy http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/browse_frm/month/2007-10?scoring=d&- Show quoted text –
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Regarding Where is everyone from? I agree with Semyon about there is no technical way to know. In GG about 10% of 700+ members indicate location. Of those 10% I can report what I found and others can mention if they were not included. For Instance: CANADA Ontario Alberta British Columbia, Quebec MEXICO Mexico CENTRAL AMERICA Costa Rica SOUTH AMERICA Brazil Bolivia Chilli Columbia The above countries were represented as well as specific cities in those countries.- Show quoted text –
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NORTH AMERICA Washington Oregon California New Mexico Texas Colorado Oklahoma Iowa Illinois Indiana Ohio Michigan West Virginia Tennessee Kentucky New York North Carolina are the states in USA that members have identified their location that I noticed. Canada is also in North America yet it is represented in above post.- Show quoted text –

 

Flax Seed

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Flax Seed

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AUSTRALIA Various Cities EUROPE Ireland England France Spain Belgium Germany Switzerland Poland Czech Republic Austria Hungary Romania SCANDINAVIA Denmark Sweden Finland ASIA Nepal Russia Japan India: many specific cities were mentioned Sri Lanka Malaysia Kuala Lumpur Thailand a number of people put Earth at least one Paradise other mentions Here, Everywhere One mention: World of Maitreya We know of many other places that people have visited from like Vietnam and if we rest our brain many other countries, states, provinces, and cities will pop into our mind form getting to know members more intimately – as we do this there is a tendencies to want to include specific cities and people that we have come to know because of the memories.  I know I left out some glaring omission of someone I have been corresponding with and know their location yet my mind has not relaxed yet from this enjoyable but tedious task. Keep in mind that only 10% of the members have indicated location. Flax Seed- Show quoted text –
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Flax Seed

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Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:25 PM
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http://m.maploco.com/details/3542bmdt When looking at Semyon’s map from the etapasvi site: the word earth comes to mind. Africa interest is included in many countries. In fact not much is excluded. Inspired by his map I asked we get one for our GG membership a year or so ago. There is a method to find out how many are current members yet I cannot figure it out.  Semyon has indicated that it is not an option from his perspective, from what I remember.  It would be good to just look at what he has provided as it is.  It would help to get an idea of interest and the internet.  As they say – The sky is the limit. Our only limiting factor to reach those interested and the rest of the world is our imagination and we have meditation to jump start that. Flax Seed ps on Massachusetts – I had that written down yet it did not jump out to me at the right time.- Show quoted text –
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Flax Seed

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Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:42 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_113379818705184 Here is the facebook page that was started by Uman. There are others yet this one has the most members that have connections to local occurrences around Dharma Sangha. On May 25, 1:24 am, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Group, > > While I am slowly collecting your names for the “GG-name-list-khada”, a plan > is forming in my head: I wish to present our Group at the Mahadarshan > program, to introduce our history and basic facts, and to bring into > Guruji’s and all Nepali devotees attention how many people in the world is > connected to him! There are things which I get in my mind out of the blue > and I know I must do them, and this is one of such things. > > But because my internet connection is very weak for this research, I would > like to ask you, especially old members like Andy and Barry, to help me to > write this introductory text. Then I will ask Darshan or Sherpa Lama to > translate it to Nepali and present GG publicly to DS and the crowd. Also to > offer English speaking Nepalis to join. my main intention is, of course, to > emphasize to Guruji how much we love him, follow his teachings and support > him. > > So please, help me with these details: > > *When was the GG founded and by whom?* > *How many members do we have now and how many are active from these?* > *How many countries are involved and which ones?* > *How many “extra” devotees are in Etapasavi, Youtube and FB?* > *Into how many languages is Etapasvi translated?*- Show quoted text –

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Based in Kathmandu Nepal: Official BSDS WebSite http://www.dharmasangha.org.np/en/ Based in Bara District Nepal: Official Local WebSite http://paldendorje.com/en/ Based in Russia: International Website http://www.etapasvi.com/en/ Isn’t this Andrea Good’s You Tube Site http://www.youtube.com/user/KhenpoDarma Facebook WebSite https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_113379818705184- Show quoted text –

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Yes.  This is a very good idea.  Thank you Marici. Kore On May 25, 1:24 am, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Group, > > While I am slowly collecting your names for the “GG-name-list-khada”, a plan > is forming in my head: I wish to present our Group at the Mahadarshan > program, to introduce our history and basic facts, and to bring into > Guruji’s and all Nepali devotees attention how many people in the world is > connected to him! There are things which I get in my mind out of the blue > and I know I must do them, and this is one of such things. > > But because my internet connection is very weak for this research, I would > like to ask you, especially old members like Andy and Barry, to help me to > write this introductory text. Then I will ask Darshan or Sherpa Lama to > translate it to Nepali and present GG publicly to DS and the crowd. Also to > offer English speaking Nepalis to join. my main intention is, of course, to > emphasize to Guruji how much we love him, follow his teachings and support > him. > > So please, help me with these details: > > *When was the GG founded and by whom?* > *How many members do we have now and how many are active from these?* > *How many countries are involved and which ones?* > *How many “extra” devotees are in Etapasavi, Youtube and FB?* > *Into how many languages is Etapasvi translated?*- Show quoted text –

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Dear Flax! Thank you so much!  And thank you Semyon!! Thank you, Marici!  Thank you all! And….confessions, remorse and apologies for any and all of the wrong views, miscalculated humor, and the nonsense I used to post. I just had no way of really encompassing the vastness…and still am far… Yet through the impure filters of our worldliness seeped the enlightenment of a Bodhisattva who guided us steadily despite.  We have always felt a deep connection to each other…remembering again, our dear old member Fred who was long the most avid poster! And please keep praying for our dear owner, Joe, who has been with us since the start, and is recovering from a heart attack… Joe often kept me company when I was in the hospital two years ago via skype when we were all busy with Gadhi Mai…and Fred sent his last worldly post..a prayer of Medicine Buddha for my own recovery…  So many of our members have been through much suffering.  And I think we have always had each other to lean on throughout these four years. Guruji has always been our ultimate connection.  With the ups and downs….falling in and falling out, it seemed that whatever the religion or the opinion, compassion, love and forgiveness of other and self always came out on top. May all beings be truly happy, and may all our group members be truly blessed!
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Flax Seed

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Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:30 PM
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Dharma Sangha has lit the light of atonement with his tone of conciliation found in many verses in his World Peace Prayers – be it for his misgivings or ours or both. LTJ D You write “And….confessions, remorse and apologies for any and all of the wrong views, miscalculated humor, and the nonsense I used to post. I just had no way of really encompassing the vastness…and still am far…” Giov recently came up with this one in response to my asking for help with mistakes we notice of our posts. “may all sentient on-line beings be free of negative misunderstandings through typos and innocent grammar mistakes” I omitted a fact that I fully intended I wrote “Love Truth Joy – Andrea Good (LTJ D) Joined later that year in October 2007: It was just after his first speech in August  and” I left out – and his second speech in October. http://www.etapasvi.com/en/teachings/45/command-from-the-bhagavan It wasn’t until the third speech that he told us about the 6 or 7 year old childhood vision given to him by the dreamaster and the 8 or 9 year old boyhood experience at the funeral pyre where he saw the yellow and green flame.  Dharma Sangha went on to say “Day by day that boy started to think that liberation will be achieved after death in the same manner. Insight of the previous meditation got developed and the bright light of the body which was on the funeral pyre and the knowledge of the meditation of past life remained blazing in his memory day and night. Gradually, after the knowledge of meditation path the need of one solitary place was raised.” http://www.etapasvi.com/en/teachings/43/opening-speech-for-the-2008-puja How similar to your first post of this Google Group (GG) blog. Because that part of the speech was written in third person various interpretations evolved http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/msg/bc28649cd65d9f29 It is now with this latest speech (May 20, 2011) that much is clarified.  We can wait for official translation yet I like to point out how intuitive your first post to this GG blog was. “I care. Thank you for letting me join you.  I have been watching this group for some time.  Ram is undoubtedly an avatar.  However we must remember that Avatars are not born enlightened.  They must achieve enlightenment again.  It is this process, marga, which gives us something to learn from and imitate.  Likewise, Avatars are born normal human beings and must learn in the same way we do, and that includes orational skills.  This helps all our understanding.  Ram is neither magical or a form of entertainment as he points out.  He is devoting his life to the Dharma.  He is born with the memory of his past enlightenment and a profound desire to aid in the salvation of sentient beings.  May we help him and find our own marga.” LoveTruthJoy Oct 24 2007 Often our hindsights can be laughable grasping of our best guess and less then on-the-mark yet realize that the post of that day was full of insight. Flax Seed- Show quoted text –
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Flax Seed

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Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:54 PM
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Marici Of interest is the Google Group was created 20 days prior to Dharma Sangha’s first speech July 13, 2007      Google Group created August 2, 2007   First Speech A Message of Peace to the World Much of the enthusiasm of the group was around his speeches and waiting for translations and translating the translations with interpretations on top of that. Another function of the group was about logistics around getting to Nepal for functions and blessings. I want to say that I like your write up of what you plan to say.  All this other stuff is to help you with any details you want to add. Thanks Much Flax Seed On May 25, 11:41 am, Flax Seed <ryder.ba…@gmail.com> wrote: > I can provide data yet keep in mind that Joe (Present Owner) and LTJ > (0ne of 5 Managers) has a better grasp of much of this and Mu (Brad > Grace) – the originator – is still a member here.. > > First message ever with the date: July 13 2007:http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/browse_frm/month/2007-07 > July 13 2007, 7:48 pm > This group has been created to gather a small community of people who > are interested in information regarding Ram Bomjon (aka Palden Dorje) > and his ongoing 6 year meditation. Please join in, pass on any new > information or photo’s you may have. > Thanks! > Brad Grace > > First person to respond to Brad (Mu) was Joe our present owner.http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/browse_frm/month/2007-08- Show quoted text –

> Lyndonhttp://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/browse_frm/month/2007-8?scor… > > Love Truth Joy – Andrea Good (LTJ D) Joined later that year in October > 2007: It was just after his first speech in August  and > Her first message. Oct 24 2007 > I care. Thank you for letting me join you.  I have been watching this > group for some time.  Ram is undoubtedly an avatar.  However we must > remember that Avatars are not born enlightened.  They must achieve > enlightenment again.  It is this process, marga, which gives us > something to learn from and imitate.  Likewise, Avatars are born > normal human beings and must learn in the same way we do, and that > includes orational skills.  This helps all our understanding.  Ram is > neither magical or a form of entertainment as he points out.  He is > devoting his life to the Dharma.  He is born with the memory of his > past enlightenment and a profound desire to aid in the salvation of > sentient beings.  May we help him and find our own marga. > LoveTruthJoyhttp://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/browse_frm/month/2007-10?sco…

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Dear Flax and All, Thank you very much for the statistics. Could you also please add answers to the rest of my questions? I will refrain from reporting to Google Group, as I have announced in my previous email. But this decision does not effect my proposal with the “khada-name-list” and my wish to provide a GG presentation. Actually this would be also a nice good-bye from my dear virtual family. I only hope that those who wish to replace me, will also have so strong feeling for sharing and internet connection, as well as good English. marici 2011/5/26, Flax Seed <ryder.barry@gmail.com >:- Show quoted text –

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Flax Seed

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Goodbye to each aspect of self will happen again and again in due time. Hello to each of our renewed unified self will happen again and again in due time. At best adversaries are aliegned within and integrated -all in due time. Marici glad you are moving forward with presentation. Please state any matter you still have quetions about. Any need for clarification will be tended to. As we weathered ones make room for upstarts new blossoms will one day again have fragrance. Hopefully the process is quickened. Respect for Elders comes when the Elders are Wise. May our youth know compassion. Flax Seed On May 26, 2:38 pm, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Flax and All, > > Thank you very much for the statistics. Could you also please add > answers to the rest of my questions? > > I will refrain from reporting to Google Group, as I have announced in > my previous email. But this decision does not effect my proposal with > the “khada-name-list” and my wish to provide a GG presentation. > Actually this would be also a nice good-bye from my dear virtual > family. I only hope that those who wish to replace me, will also have > so strong feeling for sharing and internet connection, as well as good > English. > > marici > > 2011/5/26, Flax Seed <ryder.ba…@gmail.com>:- Show quoted text –
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Dear my virtual family, Many thanks to all of you for your quick and detailed response. I think today I do not go early to the event, but will work on the presentation, so that I can ask someone to translate it to Nepali. It is a difficult decision to refrain from something what I know I could do the best way – being permanently here (others come and go), having a permanent internet from home (NCell), having a portable laptop and having relatively good knowledge of English… If anyone can replace me in reporting and fulfil all these requirements, I will be only happy. But if I see that those who had accused me of harming Guruji by my reports, will be reluctant to sacrifice time and means to share what is happening in Nepal on this Group, and if there is a request from GG members that I continue or that my reports are really needed, than I will, of course, not leave you without news.Because I remember how hungry I used to be for any tiny news about Guruji, when Andy was here and I was in Europe… Even one photo and one sentence (though object to the above mentioned mistakes and wrong visions, as we all are) could make my day happy… So now it is the time of changes and time to proof that the new generation of reporters can carry the fire burning. marici 2011/5/27, Flax Seed <ryder.barry@gmail.com>:- Show quoted text –

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Flax Seed

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<:-)) On May 26, 10:24 pm, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear my virtual family, > > Many thanks to all of you for your quick and detailed response. I > think today I do not go early to the event, but will work on the > presentation, so that I can ask someone to translate it to Nepali. > > It is a difficult decision to refrain from something what I know I > could do the best way – being permanently here (others come and go), > having a permanent internet from home (NCell), having a portable > laptop and having relatively good knowledge of English… If anyone > can replace me in reporting and fulfil all these requirements, I will > be only happy. > > But if I see that those who had accused me of harming Guruji by my > reports, will be reluctant to sacrifice time and means to share what > is happening in Nepal on this Group, and if there is a request from GG > members that I continue or that my reports are really needed, than I > will, of course, not leave you without news.Because I remember how > hungry I used to be for any tiny news about Guruji, when Andy was here > and I was in Europe… Even one photo and one sentence (though object > to the above mentioned mistakes and wrong visions, as we all are) > could make my day happy… > > So now it is the time of changes and time to proof that the new > generation of reporters can carry the fire burning. > > marici > > 2011/5/27, Flax Seed <ryder.ba…@gmail.com>:- Show quoted text –
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pragyaratna ghullu

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Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM
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qh v

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Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM
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Hi Marici, I do not understand about your action, what are you trying to do ? Should you gather all information and represent it to our dearest, respected Khenpo Acherya Sonam Gurmey first and then he can represent it to Guruji Dharma Sangha? Reading from your mail, I have a feeling that you are going to DS without telling anything to Khenpo ? This is the time we unite everyone together instead of separation group of ” new reporters” and “old reporters” ? By the way, are you staying in Nepal permanent now? Kim- Show quoted text –
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giov

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Dear Marici and group, I should think if someone had a concern they would post in the group so we could all know it. Did that happen and I missed it? For me it is a little mysterious.  But if I understand a little of human nature, it is easy for some to feel ‘possessive’ of the richness of every motion and word of their Guru.  But we understand that a Bodhisattva’s great work in the world is far more than thrilling a few disciples, and we all do that work with Him in our hearts.  We also do it in our calm maintenance of loving Maitri here in communications together.  So it is true we are all thirsty for information, and I felt like asking you for it, but perhaps it is better to be patient and empty ourselves for peace in wisdom.  That is, going with the flow with a smile, realizing people will be people, and religious feelings sometimes make people a little strange.  I think that very soon we will have lots of words, lots of photos, lots of videos so we will be able to see and understand Dharma Sangha expressing Himself. I again thank you for being there ‘for us’.  Nobody else is there quite like that. I also hope you stay centered in your wisdom and know that you are appreciated. With Metta giov- Show quoted text –

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> On May 26, 2:38 pm, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote: >> Dear Flax and All, >> >> Thank you very much for the statistics. Could you also please add >> answers to the rest of my questions? >> >> I will refrain from reporting to Google Group, as I have announced in >> my previous email. But this decision does not effect my proposal with >> the “khada-name-list” and my wish to provide a GG presentation. >> Actually this would be also a nice good-bye from my dear virtual >> family. I only hope that those who wish to replace me, will also have >> so strong feeling for sharing and internet connection, as well as good >> English. >> >> marici >> >> 2011/5/26, Flax Seed <ryder.ba…@gmail.com>: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Marici >> > Of interest is the Google Group was created 20 days prior to Dharma >> > Sangha’s first speech >> > July 13, 2007      Google Group created >> > August 2, 2007   First Speech >> > A Message of Peace to the World >> >> > Much of the enthusiasm of the group was around his speeches and >> > waiting for translations and translating the translations with >> > interpretations on top of that. >> > Another function of the group was about logistics around getting to >> > Nepal for functions and blessings. >> >> > I want to say that I like your write up of what you plan to say.  All >> > this other stuff is to help you with any details you want to add. >> > Thanks Much >> > Flax Seed >>

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>> >>  My name is Lyndon. I support Ram 100%. I will spend much of my time >> >> meditating and preparing for his message. He should be complete his >> >> meditation in the 2011 or 2012 time frame. This also aligns with the >> >> year of great spiritual accession through out the world. The Mayans >> >> predicted it 3000 years ago, for the exact date of December 23rd 2012. >> >> I believe Ram is the Avatar and a key role in the transformation of a >> >> new world. According to the Christian bible, there has to a Thousand >> >> years of peace before he end of the world. I believe ram is to bring >> >> about this 1,000 years of peace on earth. But there has to be great >> >> tribulations before the 1,000 years of peace, Like war, famine, flood, >> >> natural disasters. I believe this time is now. If we survive the >> >> tribulations, we will be truly blessed to live in this time period. >> >> Lyndonhttp://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/browse_frm/month/2007-8?scor… >> >> >> Love Truth Joy – Andrea Good (LTJ D) Joined later that year in October >> >> 2007: It was just after his first speech in August  and >> >> Her first message. Oct 24 2007 >> >> I care. Thank you for letting me join you.  I have been watching this >> >> group for some time.  Ram is undoubtedly an avatar.  However we must >> >> remember that Avatars are not born enlightened.  They must achieve >> >> enlightenment again.  It is this process, marga, which gives us >> >> something to learn from and imitate.  Likewise, Avatars are born >> >> normal human beings and must learn in the same way we do, and that >> >> includes orational skills.  This helps all our understanding.  Ram is >> >> neither magical or a form of entertainment as he points out.  He is >> >> devoting his life to the Dharma.  He is born with the memory of his >> >> past enlightenment and a profound desire to aid in the salvation of >> >> sentient beings.  May we help him and find our own marga. >> >> LoveTruthJoyhttp://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/browse_frm/month/2007-10?sco… >> >> >> On May 25, 5:29 am, saynt2day <saynt2…@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > “Recently, due to great interest, we hav eformed also a Japanese GG >> >> > and XXXX (Spanish? Italian?)” >> >> >  Russian Group – 260 members. >> >> >> > On May 25, 1:18 pm, saynt2day <saynt2…@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > > *How many countries are involved and which ones?* >> >> > >     There is no technical instruments to check it. We are from one >> >> > > country – Earth:) >> >> > > *How many “extra” devotees are in Etapasavi, Youtube and FB?* >> >> > >     FB -299 members. >> >> > > etapasvi visitors overview available >> >> > > here:http://m.maploco.com/details/3542bmdt >> >> > > *Into how many languages is Etapasvi translated?* >> >> > >     10 >> >> >> > > On May 25, 11:44 am, giov <m…@telus.net> wrote: >> >> >> > > > Dear Marici, >> >> > > > I’m sure many of us are thanking you for your good idea and your >> >> > > > ability to accomplish it for the group.  I think it will enhance >> >> > > > the >> >> > > > gladness of Guruji and all the ones who will hear it, to realize >> >> > > > this >> >> > > > hidden community who also honors Him.  What you have written is >> >> > > > basically very good, I think  You are now such a good and >> >> > > > precious >> >> > > > link for us. >> >> > > > Metta >> >> > > > giov >> >> >> > > > At 10:24 PM 24/05/2011, you wrote: >> >> >> > > > >Dear Group, >> >> >> > > > >While I am slowly collecting your names for the >> >> > > > >”GG-name-list-khada”, a plan is forming in my head: I wish to >> >> > > > >present our Group at the Mahadarshan program, to introduce our >> >> > > > >history and basic facts, and to bring into Guruji’s and all >> >> > > > > Nepali >> >> > > > >devotees attention how many people in the world is connected to >> >> > > > > him! >> >> > > > >There are things which I get in my mind out of the blue and I >> >> > > > > know >> >> > > > > I >> >> > > > >must do them, and this is one of such things. >> >> — >> मरीचि marÄ«ci — मरीचि marÄ«ci

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giov

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Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:16 PM
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Dear Marici, Of course you have every right to write your experience, I’m sure it is important for you and we will always appreciate reading it. giov

 

marici

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Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:20 AM
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Darren_86

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Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:42 AM
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Oh God, this is becoming silly. I believe Marici mean of New reporter as being new age reporter; in the sense of a blogger, that represents her personnal views; which so far I have not seen any that are harming DS image in the GG group. And I personally would not give in to any autocratic authorisation (harressment), in preventing and harrassing others from expressing their views on this issue. DS is not a private property; which should be remembered by all. The GG group cherished its member’s input, and to refrain others from commenting is a breach of civil rights. DS would in the near coming months comes up and teach the truth, and I believe by then, things will be as clear as spring water. So lets us all treat everyone with respect without discrimination (not only on race, religion and caste, but a total respect in other’s view and expression) and let DS take the lead which would clear the air by itself. By coming, directing and teaching others as per our own instinct, knowledge and diplomatic view will never be in the spirit of Maitri and non-discrimination. -Darren-
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Flax Seed

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Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:59 AM
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Darren I love your sense of humor in that you used the phrase “Oh God” You returned to us with an awakened sense of non-discrimination and have attributed that to Dharma Sangha. Looks like that theme is needed these days as we move through the maze to liberation. Thank you for being with us. Fax Seed- Show quoted text –

 

saynt2day

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Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:36 AM
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Dear Marici, 1) Many people are/were on the Event. More than week already passed from the beginning, but only from you and guy by name “Nick Fackler” (http://paldendorje.com/en/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=34:news) we got some details about it. 2) There are several rules in programming, one of them – decomposition of big issue into small pieces. What about asking people, which sentences of your posts are harming Dharma Sangha (1 – …, 2 – …). and discussing those items, if such ones will be found. 3) You better than me know what to do (listen to your heart and go on))- Show quoted text –
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LoveTruthJoy

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Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:11 PM
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Dear All, I asked Marici to update us on the internet, and we are all very appreciative of her reports which she does on an individual basis. We are eager to know what it was like, the weather, the descriptions of what was happening etc. When it comes to Guruji’s speech, I felt Marici exercised some caution in reporting the contents, .  However, I find several things popping into my mind after hearing the speech described.  Many of our members are concerned as to whether the word God is used as a direct expression or not, and also some minor details came to mind, such as, if his body was locked and he couldn’t move, and the fire woke him up, then how did he get a hold of a dorje and a dilba before bursting into flames? So, you see, we are left to considerable speculation without knowing the exact words and expressions used.  It is better to start with a clear cut understanding of the words first. Now, I say this, of course, because all of you know that I (given we did not have direct access to Guruji or Khenpo back then) was given to a lot of speculating, and it got me into a bit of trouble!  So, as one who has walked that path, and found that there are a lot of traps and suffering on the way, I would say, let’s be patient and wait for the picture to develop properly. Often this is compared to waiting until the dinner is properly prepared and served rather then going and taking spoonfuls of this and that while our mother is preparing it and being full by the time the feast is served. Especially this is important because we are a discussion group, which means, once we have the teachings in tact, we are going to discuss them. But I have noticed that many of us have discussions that are potentially volatile, and yet easily solved once we have access to the original Nepali.  So we always need to cooperate with all of Guruji’s helpers because each have their own talents and together make up the whole picture of what is really happening. Again, sincere thanks to Marici for updating us.
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pragyaratna ghullu

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Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:36 PM
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Flax Seed

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Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:44 PM
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Have to admit whenever I sneak a bit of desert it spoiled my appitite for Dinner. Mothers have that knack to teach us lessons that we were ready to learn. Forever Young Flax Seed On May 28, 2:51 am, pragyaratna Ghullu <pragyara…@gmail.com> wrote: > thank u andy for ur valuable thaughts. >- Show quoted text –
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marici

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Dear Darren, Many thanks for your words about DS not being a private property and about my civil rights! Yes, I totally agree with you. But the spirit of Maitri is SLOWLY taking shape in the human world, Guruji said in one of his older speeches, ONLY VERY SLOWLY. Censorship and fanaticism can be hardly called spirit of Maitri. If people need to harm others “in the name of God”, that is not the spirit of Maitri, just another newly formed religion, imposing on others the ways of bowing before authorities. I hope with all my heart that this time it will not slip into “fatwas”, “holy crusades” or degrading priesthood… This time it must be different! Let’s pray for the purity of Maitreya’s message! This Group was always supporting free speech, democratic ideas, freedom of opinion and religion. Let’s keep the habit… Dear Semyon, “decomposition of big issue into small pieces. What about asking people, which sentences of your posts are harming Dharma Sangha (1 – …, 2 – …). and discussing those items, if such ones will be found.” I did, but: 1, they did not let me speak in that car where the accusation took place, jumping into every second word I tried to say 🙂 2, if I managed to squeeze some words, they did not listen to them with their mind, just repeated their own things, not reacting really, when I asked them to show me one sentence at least which would claim that my post is the whole translation, or even an authorized one! 3, when I objected, that only one of those 3 people actually did read my post on the internet, and even that person had just a little time for it, so the glimpse was very superficial, they did not thing this could have been the cause of all the misunderstanding. But I am convinced it was. Just misunderstanding. Most conflicts among people are based on some stupid mistake… People are not bad, they are only ignorant, superficial or lazy. The rest is done by demonic forces, which use such people (or rather such states of mind of all people sometimes) for creating intrigues and controversy. So I am not angry with them for how they have attacked me in that car, three against one, without any space for self-explanation, but I see clearly the evil forces’ celebration. They are celebrating but actually celebrating the “nothing” – because nothing of the accusations had any real base, as most of you confirmed after reading my post (which even in the title carries a warning that it is not “THE” translation, but “ABOUT” the speech). Another fact is that noone informed me a translation group is formed and Speech is being translated. I bumped into Pragya for another reason, and only then he told that those people in the corner are working on a translation, and I can join. I checked the texts and found it very good, especially Sherpa Lama as a very suitable person to help, so there was no reason for me to join, I was satisfied with the quality. But it was already when I knew half of the Speech (what was it ABOUT), and this one had only a few sentences ready that time… So why not to share what I already knew? Andy and Flax, My post was a reaction of pure intention on many emails from GG asking for the translation of the speech, and when the last of these asked to share what was the speech ABOUT, at least, if nothing, then I decided to share what I knew so far from Darshan. The Highest knows that I wished so much to help those devoted people, just to get a glimpse at least. For me the requests of GG members are like commands. I was also once in Europe, eagerly awaiting every word or photo from Andy, Mark Dittmer or you Flax, people who were here before… I know this feeling very well, when one cannot even sleep without getting the news about Guruji… I came here to serve people and share them the light I receive. All my action was led by this single wish. If it harmed any frames and forms, authorities and hierarchies, ceremonies and traditions, castes or positions, dogmas or rules and regulations… than sorry for not being part of such a strict universe! Will never be, actually… I did not come to Nepal to replace Catholicism, Islam or Buddhism with a new religion. I came to find the spirit of Maitreya in the Blessed One. As long as I know that my post never harmed any sentient being, all of us can go to sleep now and have a nice dream, wake up for a new day full of light, and forget about our mistakes and leave the demons of intrigues out of our lives. Forever yours, marici 2011/5/28, Flax Seed <ryder.barry@gmail.com>:- Show quoted text –

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Flax Seed

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There is us GG that you care about and are serving. There is Dharma Sangha that you care about and are serving. And protecting. You have a special sence when Mara is playing tricks presenting a wall. At that moment take a breath and go within. Those that are being manipulated by Mara is your moment. You are facing that which is within. Neither agree nor aviod, just know your resolve. Know that Dharma Sangha will take care of himself. Here today gone tomorrow. His guides will tell him to walk off a cliff or turn to walk in another direction and be here for another day. We cannot focus on that. It is our job to follow the 8 Morals. You or I or they (whatever the they are) are not superior or inferior. Turning the other cheek has everything to do with Love. Dharma Sangha like us will look Mara in the eye and follow the path of ‘the Buddha’ if he does not do that he will be one of us wandering in the desert seeking rather then being Mara is very tricky and we all play the tricks as Mara pull the strings. Know that you are being played. Dharma Sangha is showing us the way. We are still watching if he can go the distance. That he will do alone. fs- Show quoted text –

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Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:43 AM
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Dear dharma brothers and sisters in the Google Group, 

This Morning after my morning prayers i sat in front of computer and felt very sad to read this.

concerning Marici’s civil rights and her fights we must not forget what kind of insecure feeling she created.The whole group in the jungle dedicating their life n hard work are worried about her. We all need to believe in Sangha.She wished not to be a part of sangha as she spoke in front of us( Dr.Moon, Ivy, kim, me and Driver) in the car, then we have nothing so say and nothing to react from my side with her. But we wished to help her and bring her back in the sangha of Guru Dharma Sangha and tried to help her but all she took in negative direction.If she continue taking each one who tried to help her as Mara then she must need some cure before the consequence become worse and before any legal actions to overcome the insecure circumstance she is creating in the name of Dharma Sangha.

 

However, I’m totally disagree with following lines she wrote,

“Another fact is that noone informed me a translation group is formed and Speech is being translated. I bumped into Pragya for another reason, and only then he told that those people in the corner are working on a translation, and I can join. I checked the texts and found it very good”

 

Her another Fact that she was not informed about translation group is true but another truth is she is not attending any meetings happening among Sangha and we don’t have any means of  communication to reach her.

However, On 21nd May, i was dictating  Guru Dharma Sangha’s speech of 20th May in Nepali in paper from the tape recorder provided by Kim and i saw marici roaming around and i called her to join the translation, she did but she left after 5 mins saying she cannot work in such messy condition. That time we just started translation and going through the first few lines, how she can say she checked it and found it very good.

we sat down rest of day in writing first in Nepali repeating each few time to get exact word cause guruji’s pronunciation is different from normal Nepali pronunciation and was hard to get at once.Unfortunately, i had to leave for Kathmandu with the big Group of Rev.Junsei Terasawa with his 53 deciples from Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia,China. India and UK as i was responsible for their arrangement of Pilgrimage. I could go only 2/3 of the guruji’s speech. I asked Sherpa Lama and rest of our Dharma friends to finish rest.

 

I must thank all those devoted members in the Ratanpuri( specially Sherpa Lama, Mike(Jyampa Dorje), dorje(i don’t know his English name), Adi Baba, Ivy, Kim, Ngima Dawa, one lady( i don’t know her name) and many more) who worked hard to finish translation and helping in every task in the site to make this Mahadarsan successful.

 

Marici told us she got huge number of thanks after she posted overview of guruji’s speech it doesn’t mean that she can ignore and stop communicating  with rest of people dedicating their life forgetting all hard time in the site.

 

i humbly request to all google group members to stop discussing about any kind of grouping topics concerning Marici Group and Acharya Sonam Gurmey group, I’m 100% sure Acharya Khempo Sonam Gurmey don’t have any such intension.

i will never wish to be part of such Sangha dividing unforgivable sin.Better i quit Google group.

 

Plz forgive me Guru Dharma Sangha  if i made any mistake and created any inconvenience to any sentient beings.

May All Beings Be Happy.

 

With Maitri,

Ven.Pragya Ratna

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marici

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Legal actions… mmmm… It is good that I had no internet access and could not read how Bhante writes about me, while at the Mahadarshan he smiles at me… 

No problem, let’s put me to jail, Bhante 🙂

 

What I never liked in people is when they smile into my face and turn people against me behind my back. But we are all different, and all of us have the chance to reach God, sooner or later. I am not the one to judge. Only my stomach feels uneasy now, and I am thanking God for not having Internet access and not suffer earlier, living many days in sweet illusion that at spiritual people of Mahadarshan I am safe…

 

Now I know where do I stand, thank you Bhante for teaching me about the last illusion of this world: the false smiles with “I care so much of you” and “I am worried of you” …

 

All of you are my teachers, and this lesson I needed most. Because I love people to much.

 

Thanks to Bhante now I can get rid of my attachment totally.

 

Om Shanti!

 

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Flax Seed

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Marici Know that smile can be from the heart. Each moment we start anew. No matter what baggage we lug around. As painful as hurt can feel carrying it only holds it. Know that a fresh smile can be a new start. With calm abiding the muddy beaker clears the water eventually pristine with clarity yes, the mud settled sits and can be stirred. Think of all the mud that sits eons back. We are not here to stir it. We are encougaged to let it settle with that we can know our true self One that we share. Rather then we here chosing a side we do well to abide with calm and smile to each of you hoping you each can find it in your hearts to do the same. All in due time. Flax Seed On Jun 7, 6:57 am, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote: > Legal actions… mmmm… It is good that I had no internet access and could > not read how Bhante writes about me, while at the Mahadarshan he smiles at > me… > > No problem, let’s put me to jail, Bhante 🙂 > > What I never liked in people is when they smile into my face and turn people > against me behind my back. But we are all different, and all of us have the > chance to reach God, sooner or later. I am not the one to judge. Only my > stomach feels uneasy now, and I am thanking God for not having Internet > access and not suffer earlier, living many days in sweet illusion that at > spiritual people of Mahadarshan I am safe… > > Now I know where do I stand, thank you Bhante for teaching me about the last > illusion of this world: the false smiles with “I care so much of you” and “I > am worried of you” … > > All of you are my teachers, and this lesson I needed most. Because I love > people to much. > > Thanks to Bhante now I can get rid of my attachment totally. > > Om Shanti! > > marici > > 2011/6/2 ka <ksol…@gmail.com>- Show quoted text –

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pragyaratna ghullu

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Dear marici,thank you very much for the reply, i thought u stopped writing we all need u just worried about why u were not siting with all other participant in the Mahadarsan, most of time i saw u staying alone aside or at last of Mahadarsan, but as far as i know the place for the all foreigners were at the from very close to guruji. my eyes always wished to see u there, my previous post were just the reply of your one sided posts specially the post relating the blaming of “attack in the car three verses one”.

I’m very sorry if there is any misunderstaning about new reporter in the site, there is no such reporter who can reach google group except so called authorised GG reporters or managers.

 

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pragyaratna ghullu

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pragyaratna ghullu

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Plz forgive me Guru Dharma Sangha  if i made any mistake and created any inconvenience to any sentient beings.May All Beings Be Happy.

 

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Ven.Pragya Ratna

 

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qh v

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Dear Marici, Good to hear from you. But can you explain about “legal actions…??” you wrote , what do you mean by ” let’s put me to jail, Bhante 🙂 ? Are you joking ? I hope, no misunderstanding here again. I found Bhante is a very nice, super sweet and helpful monk in the jungle with his knowledge and English skill. He deserve many deep bows from me. I saw Dawa bowed to Bhante too. Marici, maybe you are not used to the way a Buddhist bows to the monks. I am doing that every time I run into a monk on the street. Here I am also  talking about Khenpo Sonam, Ven Bhante, Jyampa Dorje (Mike), those 3 monks I knew from the jungles, with my respect, I always bow with my 2 hands and head down. Love and peace , Kim (Jyampa Kidwen)- Show quoted text –

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I’d recommend to stop discussing “legal actions…”, “misunderstanding”, “bows” and return to theme of this thread or close it if it is not actual anymore. Last word for thread starter. On Jun 7, 10:30 pm, qh v <ntk…@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Marici, > Good to hear from you. But can you explain about “legal actions…??” > you wrote , what do you mean by ” let’s put me to jail, Bhante 🙂 ? > Are you joking ? I hope, no misunderstanding here again. > I found Bhante is a very nice, super sweet and helpful monk in the > jungle with his knowledge and English skill. He deserve many deep bows > from me. I saw Dawa bowed to Bhante too. Marici, maybe you are not > used to the way a Buddhist bows to the monks. I am doing that every > time I run into a monk on the street. Here I am also  talking about > Khenpo Sonam, Ven Bhante, Jyampa Dorje (Mike), those 3 monks I knew > from the jungles, with my respect, I always bow with my 2 hands and > head down. > Love and peace , > Kim (Jyampa Kidwen) > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, June 7, 2011, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote: > > Legal actions… mmmm… It is good that I had no internet access and could not read how Bhante writes about me, while at the Mahadarshan he smiles at me… > > > No problem, let’s put me to jail, Bhante 🙂 > > > What I never liked in people is when they smile into my face and turn people against me behind my back. But we are all different, and all of us have the chance to reach God, sooner or later. I am not the one to judge. Only my stomach feels uneasy now, and I am thanking God for not having Internet access and not suffer earlier, living many days in sweet illusion that at spiritual people of Mahadarshan I am safe… > > > Now I know where do I stand, thank you Bhante for teaching me about the last illusion of this world: the false smiles with “I care so much of you” and “I am worried of you” … > > > All of you are my teachers, and this lesson I needed most. Because I love people to much. > > Thanks to Bhante now I can get rid of my attachment totally. > > > Om Shanti! > > marici > > > 2011/6/2 ka <ksol…@gmail.com>- Show quoted text –
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marici

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Dear Semyon and GG, I did not actually present GG at Mahadarshan, because it seemed to me improper to do when in the same time there were voices wishing me to stop to write at all, and accusing me of making divisions, breaking rules and regulations and harming Guruji with my writing… So I did not feel to be right person to present GG in front of thousands and in front of Guruji. When things softened a little to the end, there was no space and time anymore for this presentation. But a nice example of how even enmity can be healed, if people follow the same purpose, was when I asked Ivy to write your names on the Khada to be blessed, as I know her handwriting is nice, and she accepted this service happily. When I went for the last blessing, there was a big crowd and confusion, and I hold the khadas (some more, apart from the Name-List Khada) folded and was strongly thinking to Guruji that this is the Google Group, and He hold his hand on it for some seconds longer than usually. Now there is the question how to send the pieces to everyone, as I have no addresses yet, and currently no financial means. So maybe, if it still exists, everyone interested could send to Waibaji’s house a prestamped envelope with his or her address and I would send the khada piece with the name. I am attaching the GG Presentation here, for those members who are in Nepal or will arrive later and wish to do something with this information (to give to Khenpo to translate for Guruji maybe?). Concerning Pragya and Kim writing about certain details (in my opinion inaccurately), I will decline from reacting. My energy and time is too precious to spend on attempts to explain those who are not interested to hear but to be heard. Being a long-time and well-known expert on cults and sects in my country, I do not take religious sentimentality and servitude too seriously, this is not my cup of tea, sorry. When I have entered GG some years ago, I was pleasantly surprised how intelligent, ripe and spiritually adult most online members are here. That’s why I stayed and enjoyed your company. But some people who arrived to Nepal, came from different backgrounds, not from GG. They took here a different approach, different mentality than I am used to from GG members. So I have difficulties to communicate with them. It is not to say that I am better or they are worse: it is just a different approach, where I do not fit. I will never write about BSDS as a cult or sect, because Guruji never wanted to create a cult or sect, it is not his fault if similar tendencies will appear in this group. But I wish people in this group realize in time, while it is till not too late, that fanaticism, fundamentalism, exaggerated servitude, excommunicating critics and silencing the expression of different opinions are not the signs of a pure Dharma. I do not say this is happening here at a large scale, but there are little details, and tendencies… Lastly I woudl like to react on Pragya’s complaining about me sitting all the time in the back of the tent. It had many reasons, which all came together at Mahadarshan, and i did not want to offend anyone by sitting alone: 1. First reason is that as there was no translation provided, only exceptionally, most of foreigners had spent the day in meditation, including me. What can be more useful in the presence of a Boddhisattva? But I have my own special way, when energies and visions, which others do not see or feel, are appearing. It would be too long to explain and still, without the same practice, none of you would understand, why is it a problem to touch other human beings. You look at a woman sittting cross legged only, see a body and think that is all what is happening. But beyond this thin layer of materiality, during Mahadarshan, universes where opening, connections hidden to most people created, visions and powers displaying in a long series. Such type of meditational states, for some reasons which is secret to disclose, does not enable the yogi to touch other people, and many times even to be near to them. All this is not possible an sometimes harmful to combine with the vicinity of other people, touching them or they touching the meditator. So to avoid this danger, I chose the back of the tent, or sometimes the hot sun in the aile without roof, as I knew for sure that noone would voluntarily go there to be baked… I am very sad that around Guruji I could find only one single person who was experiencing His Divinity at the same level as me, and can clearly understand how these energies work, what is good, what would be a mistake, what would make harm…. Please do not make the mistake of uniformizing all people whom you see around Guruji. Though the human body is similar for all of us, we all came from different worlds, different past lives, and our souls are not at the same levels. Among humans Guruji is also teaching and blessing gods, celestial beings, animals and demons…. But I would like to request those who are always quick to judge and condemn but slow to accept a different view: if there are things which you do not understand in the meditational practice of others, stop your mind from condemning and judging. There are so many things in this universe which people have no idea about. To condemn someone just because he or she chooses to sit alone, is really not right. 2. Another reason why I did not sit in front with the foreigners is that I am shy and feel undeserving to be so near to such a holy person as Guruji is. Even if 90% of the sangah rumours that I do not wish anything else than only to disturb Guruji’s meditation and harass him, the truth is that I am very shy in front of him, and many times did not even go for blessing because I do not wish to disturb him or be tired after ten thousand people’s blessing… On the contrary of what are the rumours about me, I would never ever dare to push myself in front to force his attention, have an elite position (better than Nepalis who had to stay 5 hours in the queue), or special treatment as a foreigner. I tried to join foreigners in the front line from time to time, but I soon felt uneasy about it. When in Halkoria, I many times did not go for blessing when Guruji came down to the office, because I was just shy and felt I do not wish to disturb. To look into his eyes I feel also as a disturbance… I know that this is difficult to believe in the light of artificially created rumours about my person, but I cannot write more just that this is the pure truth. So sorry that I am a longtime meditator with a special way unknown to the outer eye, and sorry that I am so shy. I do not really understand why is there a need to interpret each of my actions, words and writing as a negative thing. Are people losing these days their reasonability and soberness totally? Did anyone hear about the rules of tolerating plurality among people: NOT EVERYONE WHO DIFFERS FROM ME IS NECESSARILY BAD, NOT EVERY ACTION WHICH I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IS NECESSARILY BAD. marici- Show quoted text –

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Flax Seed

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Dearest Sangha of the Dharma Sangha means family and we hear that Dharma Sangha prefers this term over other words, he even asked that we use Sangha rather then the word committee.  We are blessed that Dharma Sangha encourages us to think of ourselves as family.  We are blessed by Dharma Sangha chosing members of our group to become Jyampa and even serve as his Monks. Dharma Sangha chooses to not divide but rather to be inclusive.  He asks that we not Discriminate.  We in our group have worked hard to keep the door open.  As it narrows we with supreme effort work at the hinges to keep the door swinging widely for all to enter and feel comfortable. When Dharma Sangha feels the Sangha is moving in the wrong direction he takes action and strives to make the path known.  After occasional elusive disappearance he gathers his Sangha and asks that they learn to cooperate.  The task at hand is large for we are so diverse and our ego’s are obstacles as we try to protect our place in the whole. Letting go of the past is difficult as is rewriting the past.  There are many stories to be told of the rationale behind many actions that ended up to be a cause of a New Way.  The Path that we are encouraged to take is inclusive and to take it each of us need to Liberate to an ongoing degree. In this process the act of clearing the air often helps with understanding of each person yet it often creates a fork in the road away from a self that Dharma Sangha wants us to know.  With heart we can ask each member to first forgive themself and it will make it so much easier to forgive each other.  Many here practice forgiveness daily and do not require the labyrinth that arises when details emerge. We know Dharma Sangha has Forgiven and Has Challenged further Growth. May Each of us embrace that challenge and know the Self that is slowly emerging. My Heart Extends Out As I think of EACH Member Respect is in High Regard Please be Part of Our Sangha Flax Seed On Jun 8, 10:44 am, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote: > The Presentation attached. > > 2011/6/8 marici <zuta…@gmail.com>- Show quoted text –

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Hi brothers and sisters, I just want to introduce myself.  I’m Helen, a newbie to this group. I would like to thank you all for your reports and insights.  Each of you is a spoke in the wheel of this GG.  Although all coming from different directions, each view is valuable to me.  And I can’t help but feel blessed to be part of this Sangha.  My limited understanding in Buddhism is that to be in a Sangha gives us the opportunity to interact with others, hence be able to work on our karma.  If we were to meditate alone in the mountain by ourselves, our silly egos won’t get to emerge and we won’t be able to spot it and snuff it, and learn from it, and turn our tendency to fight into the good karma of inclusion and forgiveness.  Of course, Guruji being born without karma is a different story. And I would like to prostrate to all of you, although prostration is probably not in the path for everyone.  I do this for selfish reasons, you see.  I am not used to prostration at all, and so I think prostrating would be a very effective practice of humility for me.  A reminder that I can’t take myself too seriously.  All the rights and wrongs are ultimately illusions. I salute to the buddhahood in all of you.  Love you all. Helen- Show quoted text –
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Catherine.Weber

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It is so nice reading your posts Helen ! With love from Jyampa Lhashang
> Message du 09/06/11 07:02 > De : “Aldo” > A : “Ram Bomjon – Dharma Sangha” > Copie à : > Objet : [buddhaboy] Re: Presenting Google Group at Mahadarshan? > > Hello Helen! I think we’re all newbie’s here in the grand scheme of > things, just some newer than others. > > On Jun 8, 12:27 pm, Helen Tam-Semmens wrote: > > Hi brothers and sisters, > > > > I just want to introduce myself. I’m Helen, a newbie to this group. >
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Helen Tam-Semmens

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marici

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Dear All, 

I am highlighting the LEGAL ACTION threat in the below email.

 

With faith in non-discrimination and the power of truth,

 

marici

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———- Forwarded message ———- From: pragyaratna ghullu <pragyaratna@gmail.com> Date: 2011/5/29 Subject: Re: [buddhaboy] Re: Presenting Google Group at Mahadarshan? To: buddhaboy@googlegroups.com Dear dharma brothers and sisters in the Google Group, 

This Morning after my morning prayers i sat in front of computer and felt very sad to read this.

concerning Marici’s civil rights and her fights we must not forget what kind of insecure feeling she created.The whole group in the jungle dedicating their life n hard work are worried about her. We all need to believe in Sangha.She wished not to be a part of sangha as she spoke in front of us( Dr.Moon, Ivy, kim, me and Driver) in the car, then we have nothing so say and nothing to react from my side with her. But we wished to help her and bring her back in the sangha of Guru Dharma Sangha and tried to help her but all she took in negative direction.If she continue taking each one who tried to help her as Mara then she must need some cure before the consequence become worse and before any legal actions to overcome the insecure circumstance she is creating in the name of Dharma Sangha.

However, I’m totally disagree with following lines she wrote,

“Another fact is that noone informed me a translation group is formed and Speech is being translated. I bumped into Pragya for another reason, and only then he told that those people in the corner are working on a translation, and I can join. I checked the texts and found it very good”

Her another Fact that she was not informed about translation group is true but another truth is she is not attending any meetings happening among Sangha and we don’t have any means of  communication to reach her.

However, On 21nd May, i was dictating  Guru Dharma Sangha’s speech of 20th May in Nepali in paper from the tape recorder provided by Kim and i saw marici roaming around and i called her to join the translation, she did but she left after 5 mins saying she cannot work in such messy condition. That time we just started translation and going through the first few lines, how she can say she checked it and found it very good.

we sat down rest of day in writing first in Nepali repeating each few time to get exact word cause guruji’s pronunciation is different from normal Nepali pronunciation and was hard to get at once.Unfortunately, i had to leave for Kathmandu with the big Group of Rev.Junsei Terasawa with his 53 deciples from Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia,China. India and UK as i was responsible for their arrangement of Pilgrimage. I could go only 2/3 of the guruji’s speech. I asked Sherpa Lama and rest of our Dharma friends to finish rest.

I must thank all those devoted members in the Ratanpuri( specially Sherpa Lama, Mike(Jyampa Dorje), dorje(i don’t know his English name), Adi Baba, Ivy, Kim, Ngima Dawa, one lady( i don’t know her name) and many more) who worked hard to finish translation and helping in every task in the site to make this Mahadarsan successful.

Marici told us she got huge number of thanks after she posted overview of guruji’s speech it doesn’t mean that she can ignore and stop communicating  with rest of people dedicating their life forgetting all hard time in the site.

i humbly request to all google group members to stop discussing about any kind of grouping topics concerning Marici Group and Acharya Sonam Gurmey group, I’m 100% sure Acharya Khempo Sonam Gurmey don’t have any such intension.

i will never wish to be part of such Sangha dividing unforgivable sin.Better i quit Google group.

Plz forgive me Guru Dharma Sangha  if i made any mistake and created any inconvenience to any sentient beings.

May All Beings Be Happy.

With Maitri,

Ven.Pragya Ratna

 

 

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Report from Nepal

Add star marici<zutakac@gmail.com> Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 2:51 PM

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Dear Group,

Though I have announced that I will not report anymore, as I am not staying nearby Khenpo in Ratanpuri, I have been to Halkoriya and also I am in constant touch with devotees outside Ratanpur Gompa and „Committee”members in Pilowa (Guruji does not like to use the word „committee”, „samiti”in Nepali, rather „sangha”), so actually I am always informed about what is going on.

Yesterday there was another Astashila – vow of Eight Morals, with meeting Guruji at a Darshan in Halkoriya. I would not know it, as at the last one it was stated that no more such Astashila Darshans will be held until Mahadarshan in May…. But I happened to meet Manu, Guruji’s nun-sister two days ago, and she invited me for the event. I was delighted to be back to Halkoriya, Heaven on Earth, and visit the places I used to spend some months…There are many forest fires in the area, and they do not avoid Halkoriya as well. The only area which has an „immunity”against fires, is the small circle of Guruji’s meditational site, I heard from someone; it is said they have seen ashes just up to the smaller fence, and no more, in the past…Of course, someone who combusted into fire himself, is most probably the Master of Fire in any circumstances, even without any special effort on his side. In that case, I am afraid that the settlement of Halkoriya now burnt even around the houses, is under His control and agreement… So all the dense green which surrounded our tents, are burnt, and even bigger trees became half burnt… The flames are at times many meters high, as windy days spread them in seconds. And these are windy days. The only think which survived is Millie’s pair of shoes, left there 🙂

Forest fires are, as I understand, a constant problem in Nepal, it is very dry this year, and people who visit the forest to (illegally) cut wood or (illegally) hunt, many times smoke and throw their cigarettes, or cook on fire and don’t care… or as Gangaji told, they are just „bad people”and want to chase away wild animals by making fires. So if one drives the roads at dark, on both sides there are many local forest fires…Sunita, Waiba’s daughter-in-law says that this is happening every year, and that Halkoriya is burnt down also every year. I feel pity for the freshly grown light green plants, and also the trees. Another unpleasant effect of forest fires is the air filled with smoke every day. Especially in Halkoriya, the air is not clean, and all who live there have to breathe in the smoke. In Pilowa this smoke becomes a layer of smog above the village, covering the brightness of the rising or setting sun and moon…

Astashila went as usual, with about 500 or more people. What was new, that Dawaji arrived with Hiu Maya and little Mary Dolma as well, together with a group of Westerners? I could meet Lyndon (Lobsang Sherab), our GG member for the first time. He looks so young! He is going to attend a school to study Sanskrit, Tibetan and Nepali in Kathmandu from August, and before that he would like to stay in Ratanpur and become a monk under Dharma Sangha, and join Mike, the first Western „robed” monk under Guruji, and the Uppasikas (Andy, Catherine, Veronique, Ivy, Kim, Dawa).

Guruji was smiling on many people, so I suppose he is now happier. Fabio from Italy, a new meditator to join the Westerners interested to be disciples, was overwhelmed by the presence and blessing. It is always so nice to watch newcomers how happy they are to meet Dharma Sangha the first time, and how blessed they feel. He was staying in Ratanpur, and now he sleeps in the wooden office of BSDS in Piluwa (Pilowa), five kilometers from Halkoriya on the other side of the road.

My eyesight is worsening day by day. I have no idea why this is happening just in Nepal and so quickly. I will have to think about visiting an optician, because I stop to recognize people’s faces if they are already something like ten meters from me. So sitting behind the crowd at Astashila, I had no chance to see into Guruji’s face, what made me sad, especially because it is possible that I will have no more chance to see him. With Guruji, as I am experiencing, nothing ever is sure, concerning (our human) plans for the future, as if we are supposed to live just in the presence and. He is in a constant flow of „holy visitations”, and circumstances and people are always changing, transforming, some old things disappear for all, some new things appear… The strong influence of the Moon in his natal horoscope is felt around. So while some people say he will do this and that after Mahadarshan, other people claim that they have heard him saying totally opposite plans… Myself, I am led by inner feelings and intuitions, but even those lost their value when they appeared false some weeks ago… I remember Andy’s experience with „false visions”, described in her book Reflections on Palden Dorje…

So maybe this confusion and unfulfilled hopes are to teach us, that „I am only showing the way, but you must do it on your own”, meaning us devotees tend to too much rely on the human form of Guruji, forgetting to work on ourselves. And maybe also to remind us of impermanence and the fact that there is nothing fixed and sure in the whole Universe to hold on?

A little political gossip:

Last time when returning from Simra on the 1st of Vaisakh, there was no transport anymore, as this is the Nepali New Year (one of them, as different nationalities celebrate different other New Years according to their calendars). So I asked for advice an intelligently looking motorbike rider with a child, and he told me he drops the baby home and comes back to me to take me to Pilowa. This was a typical Nepali reaction. They are very caring and I think also like foreigners here. I wanted to pay him some money, but he refused.

It turned out that he spoke very good English (not too usual), because he used to work in Iraq, as so many Nepalese, for the American army. They earn relatively high amounts, but of course, the price is also high: hard work with a few rest, danger for life. He told me that now he is rich, and also has a good job, drives a truck, what is well paid here. He explained to me, that the land in Nepal is slowly sold (rented for 50 or more years) to India by Nepali ministers, because of greed for quick money, which, I suppose, is just partly going into public pockets… Other people also say that Nepal could have electricity 24 hours long, because it does produce, but again, the greed of politicians sells Nepali electricity across the border to India, so in India there is electricity all day long in most places, while Nepalese have just about Two-three times a day for two-four hours…

Though village life looks ideal at the first sight, yesterday I have also learned that the corn which is heaped in the yard of our neighbors is actually not good for food (so I cannot buy „dero” flour from them, which is the local „polenta”). That they grow a hybrid corn, which then they sell to big factories, as for this corn they are paid more, than for the tasty local corn… I do not wish even to investigate, if this is GM and if this is the effect of Monsanto, the world (in) famous GM Company, which destroyed many farms in the Third World to make them grow GM crops and forbid them to grow original ones… Good news is that Nepalese, even many times uneducated, have an inborn intelligence to recognize that these crops are just not good for food, so people eat local ones in their delicious dishes…

I am working on a report for Google Group on village life, as I am so excited from it! I am actually happy that I did not join the Ratanpur Gompa community, because then I would not have the chance to enjoy the small, but beautiful and cute universe of Pilowa.

Life is recycling around me: In the Waiba house three kittens were born on the even of Guruji’s birthday: one black, one grey and one striped. Just some days ago their cute puppy died in the yard, maybe from poisoning. Their buffalo is expecting a baby every moment.

Nepal suffers from great draught these days. Usually the mango trees are full of small potential mango fruits, but now, they say, it is not enough rain, so there will be not many mangoes on Waiba’s trees :-(. I love mango so much…

Some weeks ago Khenpo asked me if I can wrote some poem praising Guruji in English. I could manage, but in my case these things can happen only through inspiration, never by order… So if anyone of you have written poems about Guruji, please collect them in a thread, and then I print them out and give Khenpo. He probably wants to use it at the program of Mahadarshan.

मरीचि marīci

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Add star Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com> Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:46 AM

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How about this poem that Scarlet Adams wrote about a year ago and has

been trying to get Dharma Sangha to accept it ever since. I did send

it to LTJ yet everything was happening at once (as it is now) so I do

not know what became of it. She used to be a member here and on

Facebook yet I do not know where she is now.

TIMI TENSE

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Swami Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Lakho Pranam Chha Timlie (I Salute You A Hundred Thousand Times)

Lakho Pranam Chha Timlie (I Salute You A Hundred Thousand Times)

Suikaarnu Antarayami (Please Accept My Humility, Oh All Pervading)

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Tiri Rathna Ko Aagaya Leh (After The Order Of The « Tiri Ratna »)

Dhaarnu Bayho Yo Roop (You Started To Become A Mediator)

Timro Aarti Utaruu (And Today I Conduct Your Aarati)

Timro Aarti Mah Gaayu (And Today I Sing Your Aarati/Glories)

Timlie Chardahu Mah Dhoop (And Today I Offer You Essence Sticks)

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Pyar Sanga Jhaleh Pukarchha (Whoever Calls Upon You With Love..)

Jho Garcha Timro Dyan (Whoever Mediates)

Uslie Gale Lagayera (You Take Them In Your Arms)

Disheensha Un Lie Gyan (You Give Them Your Wisdom)

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Dharma Ko Palan Garna (To Keep Religion Going)

Timi Aayo, Avatar (You Came As An Incarnate)

Sansar Lie Gyani Banuona (To Make The World More Knowledgeable)

Bhaysious Palan Har (You Became Our Savior)

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Pipal Rukh Ko Mooni (Under The Pipal Tree)

Chha Timro Dhaam (Is Your “Location”)

Sab Bhanda Pavan Jag Teo (And That Place Isthe Most Purest)

Thei Chha Mero Bhagvan (Since That’s Where God Is Seated)

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Kay Na Kaikana (Wihtout Eating Or Drinking)

Timi Leh Garnu Bho Dhyan (You Mediated)

Sansar Ko Dhan Ko Ma Kasari (How Can I Properly Praise The Wealth Of

All Beings)

Garu Puri Bhayaan (How Can I Properly Praise The Wealth Of All Beings)

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Timi Ho Daya Ko Sagar (You Are A Sea Of Mercy)

Timi Karuna Ko Roop (You Are A Symbol Of Peace)

Timi Ho Gyan Ko Jyoti (You Are The Light Of Wisdom)

Timi Huay-Sein-Chha Anoop (You Are Imcomparable)

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Aphnu Sthan Ma Bhasera (Sitting In Your “Place”)

Sab Ma Dyan Garnu (Please Watch Over All Beings)

Timro Charan Bata Mah-Lie (And Please, Away From Your Lotus Feet…)

Bhatakna Nadinu (Do Not Let Me Wander)

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Swami Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

Lakho Pranam Chha Timlie (I Salute You A Hundred Thousand Times)

Lakho Pranam Chha Timlie (I Salute You A Hundred Thousand Times)

Suikaarnu Antarayami (Please Accept My Humility, Oh All Pervading)

Om Jaya Jaya Buddha Gyani (Glory To Buddha Gyani)

The Nepali Aarati

ॐ जाया जाया बुद्ध ज्ञानी

स्वामीजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

लाखोप्रणामचतीमीलाई

लाखोप्रणामचतीमीलाई

स्वीकारोअंतरयामी

ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

तिरीरत्नाकोआज्ञाले

धारनुभयोयोरूप

तिम्रोआरतीउतारू

तिम्रोआरतीमगाओ

तीमीलाईचरडाउमधुप

ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

प्यारसंगहजललेपुकार्चा

जोगरचातिम्रोध्यान

उसलाईगलेलगाएरा

उसलाईगलेलगाएरा

दीसिंचाउनलाईज्ञान

ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

धर्मंकोपालनगर्नाह

तिमीआयोअवतार

संसारलाईज्ञानीबनौना

हामीलाईज्ञानीबनौना

हुनुभयोपालनहार

ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

पीपलरुखकोमुन्नी

चतिम्रोधाम

सबभन्दापावनजगहथिओ

सबभन्दापावनजगहथिओ

ठीचमेरोभगवान

ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

केहीनाखाईकाना

तिमीलेगर्नुभयोध्यान

संसारकोधनकोमाकसरी

योजगहकोधनकोमाकसरी

गरुपूरीबैयाँ

ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

तिमीहोदायाकोसागर

तिमीकरुनाकोरूप

तिमीहोज्ञानकोज्योति

तिमीहोदिव्यज्योति

तिमीताहोअनूप

ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

अपणुस्थानमाबसेरा

सबमाध्यानगर्नु

तिम्रोचरणबातामालाई

तिम्रोशरणबातामालाई

भातकीनानदिनु

ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

स्वामीजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

लाखोप्रणामचतीमीलाई

लाखोप्रणामचतीमीलाई

स्वीकारोअंतरयामी

ॐजायाजायाबुद्धज्ञानी

When asked about music behind it she choose the following yet was open

to other choices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiWSM5Klcqo

She felt she was inspired and we had several discussions about that.

Flax Seed

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Add star Ivy Jugooa<ivyjugooa@live.nl> Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 3:22 PM

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Thank you so much Flax for sharing this prayer with us. I’m very busy as I’m leaving tomorrow for Nepal, but I took the time to listen to this, it made me feel deeply grateful. You are such a wonderful person, thanks again!

Jhampa Lhaden

> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:01:38 -0700

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Add star Ricky Chong<thchong22@yahoo.com> Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:13 PM

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Dear Flax,

Glad to read your great poem. Please read poem thru YouTube, all member can hear your voice, I love to hear it. Om Namo Guru Buddha Gyani

Chong

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To: “Ram Bomjon – Dharma Sangha” <buddhaboy@googlegroups.com>

Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 9:01 PM

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Add star Catherine.Weber<weber.catherine.v@wanadoo.fr> Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:46 PM

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Dear Flax, this is full of love and gratitude, a song to be sung to our Mv Dharma Sangha in the groves of Pureland, under the wish-fulfilling trees. Thank you Scarlet Adams, and thank you Flax for your indefectible and worthwhile presence, helping us to follow up with the teachings, the news, helpful information and friendliness towards everyone.

I am investing time these days to catch up with my knowledge in Buddhist philosophy and its innumerous great teachers. It is a great delight.

I wish I would be fluent in Tamang, Nepali, Tibetan, and Hindi and most of all Maitri language.

Jyampa Lhaden, may your journey be a fountain of blessings making your light shine evermore.

Lhashang

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Add star Ivy Jugooa<ivyjugooa@live.nl> Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:49 AM

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Dear sister Jhampa Lhashang,

Thank you for your good wishes. Your messages always radiate pure love. In this great universe, you are a bright shining star!

Jhampa Lhaden

Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:01:42 +0200

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Add star LoveTruthJoy<lovetruthjoy@gmail.com> Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:34 AM

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Dear Flax,

I showed the song to Khenpo and he said, “Very nice”

and I don’t remember what happened after that.

I do suggest you send it Pragya, or actually

Ram Bakta Bomjan might be your man for this.

I will dig up his email for you.

LT J D

Add star Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com> Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:45 AM

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L T J D like your initials with your double J 🙂

I appreciate you showing it to Khenpo.

According to Marici

“Some weeks ago Khenpo asked me if I can wrote some poem praising

Guruji in

English. I could manage, but in my case these things can happen only

Through

Inspiration, never by order… So if anyone of you have written poems

About

Guruji, please collect them in a thread, and then I print them out and

Give

Khenpo. He probably wants to use it at the program of Mahadarshan.”

So he is aware of it and that is sufficient for me. I really do not

Know the implications to move forward with it – in that – Scarlet is

No longer part of face book and the discussion around this has

Disappeared. I do not think she is a member here either from my

Investigative skills.

Khenpo Sonam might want a more western style poem since he is still

Seeking.

This is a chance for all those creative heartfelt devotees to dig

Deep.

Flax Seed

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Add star Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com> Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:37 AM

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I am compelled to add to this discussion that I have pursued this poem

For the sake of Scarlet Adams in that we entered an ongoing

Relationship in Facebook. Much of our discussion was recorded in

Discussions yet is now gone. We also talked 1to1 also.

I can understand how many like this prayer/poem and I am respectful of

That. My conversation with Scarlet was that it was promoting Dharma

Sangha as a God and how that made me feel uncomfortable. What she was

Asking for was to have Dharma Sangha look at it and let him decide.

That is what I was helping her with.

I do agree we are promoting Dharma Sangha as our most high inner self

And all that it entails 🙂 So many will go with this and sing his

Praises on high as many Catholics have done likewise to Jesus ‘the

Christ’. It seems to come with the territory.

I would not be one to resist that or get in the way yet it will always

Be important to remind each other that our real goal is self-love and

Finding our inner self to be most high and then finding each other

Inside as we praise that which ‘Is’. The added thing of finding No-

Self or Not-Self is something I am learning about and for now will say

That has to do with getting-out-of-the-way and that is when All-Heaven-

Breaks-Loose.

On the other hand we have this rare opportunity to follow this amazing

Person – Dharma Sangha – that seems to be doing what it takes to

Become what we seek by getting Out-of-the-way. We will know it when

He gets there – until then we might keep a close third eye on what

Unfolds. Even getting close is amazing. Pureland is in the May-it-

Come stage yet is still just-around-the-corner under the tree.

Flax Seed

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Add star Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com> Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:00 AM

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Marici

Here is another poem from the past that was written about Dharma

Sangha from our Australian member Judith. Not sure if she is a member

Now.

http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/msg/5337a3f8b61af8ce

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Dear Dharma brothers and sisters,

it is not exactly the topic : a poem from us about Dharma Sangha, because this is a poem from Dharma Sangha to us that I heard pouring from his heart while I was in the plane from Nepal back to France.

He surely saw how I missed him and his cathedral-like meditation tree, so he said this with soooooo much love, may it give you a lot of joy and Maitri :

“Platinum threads of divine grace gently descending from pure skies,

With the enchanting tingling of chimes;

Sprinkling fresh breezes of contentment and crystal clear peace;

Like the aerial roots of the Pipal-tree descending to the ground,

They descend as the envoys of deities

So as to seal Heavens with all living creatures;

Harmony of the Pureland comes and expands on the earth.

Bathe, you all sentient beings,

In the lake of love and pure blessings.

Sit in the circle of infinite knowing.”

Lhashang

> Message du 25/04/11 05:15

> De : “Flax Seed”

> A : “Ram Bomjon – Dharma Sangha”

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> Marici

>

> here is another poem from the past that was written about Dharma

> Sangha from our Australian member Judith. Not sure if she is a member

> now.

>

> http://groups.google.com/group/buddhaboy/msg/5337a3f8b61af8ce

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> > On Apr 23, 11:00 pm, Flax Seed wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > L T J D like your initials with your double J 🙂

> >

> > > I appreciate you showing it to Khenpo.

> >

> > > according to Marici

> > > “Some weeks ago Khenpo asked me if I can wrote some poem praising

> > > Guruji in

> > > English. I could manage, but in my case these things can happen only

> > > through

> > > inspiration, never by order… So if anyone of you have written poems

> > > about

> > > Guruji, please collect them in a thread, and then I print them out and

> > > give

> > > Khenpo. He probably wants to use it at the program of Mahadarshan.”

> >

> > > So he is aware of it and that is sufficient for me. I really do not

> > > know the implications to move forward with it – in that – Scarlet is

> > > no longer part of face book and the discussion around this has

> > > disappeared. I do not think she is a member here either from my

> > > investigative skills.

> >

> > > Khenpo Sonam might want a more western style poem since he is still

> > > seeking.

> > > This is a chance for all those creative heartfelt devotees to dig

> > > deep.

> >

> > > Flax Seed

> >

> > > On Apr 23, 9:49 pm, LoveTruthJoy wrote:

> >

> > > > Dear Flax,

> > > > I showed the song to Khenpo and he said, “Very nice”

> > > > and I don’t remember what happened after that.

> > > > I do suggest you send it Pragya, or actually

> > > > Ram Bakta Bomjan might be your man for this.

> > > > I will dig up his email for you.

> > > > LT J D

>

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Add star Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com> Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:51 PM

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Lhashang

What you write is lovely

Keeps us where we are meant to be

The crossing over to Pureland will be all about being ‘here’

Where we have come to know

Letting all that has led us to this moment just be

And bathe in the love

In the words of Marici in this thread

“As if we are supposed to live just in the presence”

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Thank you my brother

> Message du 25/04/11 17:06

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> Objet : [buddhaboy] Re: Report from Nepal

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> Lhashang

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> What you write is lovely

> keeps us where we are meant to be

> The crossing over to Pureland will be all about being ‘here’

> Where we have come to know

> letting all that has led us to this moment just be

> And bathe in the love

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> In the words of Marici in this thread

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> “as if we are supposed to live just in the presence”

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> On Apr 25, 9:32 am, “Catherine.Weber”

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From Marici

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Add star  lovetruthjoy@gmail.com<lovetruthjoy@gmail.com> Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:39 PM
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Dear Google Group,

(Brief message from Mahapranidan)

It is a long time I have written to you all. My life is very busy here, much more than in a big city. We wake up early, go for blessings still in the dark, experience sunrise at Guruji, and then go back to do our daily routine… The three days of Mahapranidan were quite exhausting, as the thousands of visitors are of that kind of noisy crowd we all know from Dharma Sangha videos previously. Also it was a good test of human patience, tolerance, non-discrimination and priorities of everyone at the site, and I must admit that not everyone has passed it… But thanks God today is the last day, and the peace and silence will again return to the jungle…

First of all I would like to thank Catherine Weber, who arrived some days ago, and took some material donation for the local community made of a few monks and nuns, and some „left-overs“ of Samsara like Usha didi, Nangsal-Ji and me, and of course Khenpo lama and his assistances. Right away it was needed, as Shyam, Guruji’s smaller brother came here with a desperate need of pens, so we gave him Catherine’s present as well as the three scissors she brought, as scissors seem to be, for some secret reason, a great treasure here… Maybe one of the reasons is also the Bodhisattva Vow, which Andy has taken some days ago, and in which a few hairs are cut by Guruji personal ally from the new „Boddhisattva’s“ head. Yesterday two other people decided to take this Boddhisattva Vow (meant for lay-persons as an alternative to monk- and nun-hood), Canadian Marie-Soleil, whom we know already from her last visit, and Veronique. But at the site we have found out there are no scissors, and it seemed noone had the idea to bring them quickly, until the big line for blessing passes. So I had some undigested anger-energy in me from the last day, when I found out, together with Andy, that the English transliteration of the Mahapranidan Prayers is not accurate and cannot be practically used. This anger I needed to convert to some positive fire-activity, so I offers to run the quite long way from Guruji’s place to our tents and bring my scissor… I am very happy I had the opportunity to take this early-morning jogging, not many people can afford to use Guruji’s forest for  run J It was beautiful and useful at once, and just when I arrived they started the Astashil (monk- or nun-vows, as well as Boddhisattva Vows are apparently taken during the Eight Morals Vow).

The new Boddhisattvas of Guruji’s order were then Kim from California, Catherine from France, Veronique and also Dawaji, our dear Orphanage founder and Google Group member. Guruji was never so happy smiling, we all admire the photos Andy has taken, never so glad… And his happiness continued today when also Marie-Soleil took her Boddhisattva Vow, together with two Nepali men who felt apparently inspired by the deep faith of us, Westerners. We have a very pleasant „team“ here, and I wish all cold stay longer, but most people have their families, and have to pop home for some months. But it is clear already now, that all Westerner who have been in our group, are deeply impressed by Guruji, and that we kind of sacrificed our life and hearts and everything we have and what we are, to him… Imagine speaking daily about our admiration, love, care, worries, trusting in Guruji… Can be anything more ecstatic than such a group of people?

Though it is true that I am not speaking, as I am keeping Mauna, a vow of silence, for an indefinite period. Still I have never felt more involved in social life than now. It is a paradox, I do not speak, but people speak to me and involve me in everything, and deleting my own chatting energy from all this seems to be very auspicious. I decided to keep this vow three days before Mahapranidan, when something(-s) happened during a night when Andy was in Simara at the internet. Just sorry, I cannot tell it, as I must keep it secret, but it was an experience of great danger. So next day I went to Khenpo, as the main „authority“ at the site (Guruji is not dealing with such human issues J ) and announced that I will stop talking… „Im-possible!“ got the very typical answer from Khenpo, as Mahapranidan was approaching and he hoped to add me to the regimen of 250 volunteers, as I could look after the foreigners etc… About 40 English speakers were expected, but ….we are still only a few, and it is the last of the Prayers: Milli, Mike, Catherine, Veronique, Marie-Soleil, Nick the cameraman (not Google Group), and yesterday Ivee, I think from Pakistan or India, who painted an amazingly accurate painting of Guruji and presented it today. He does not take presents, but blessed the picture and I suppose it will soon be hanging on the office wall. You will see it on Andy’s photo…

So it is still not too many. And we still felt we were kind of lost, as the Prayers well all in Boddhisattva language (a kind of Tibetan), and Khenpo had no time to help us with the authorized translation… And even so, the phonetically transliterated version was just wrong, noone could follow it, I suppose it was changed in the last moment before printing… So a big chaos, viewed from all those who did not speak Nepali or Boddhisattvan language. So we tried at least to pick up the message from the vibration of the Prayer, to meditate during chanting. The big tent (the one which was broken down by a hailstorm because the people who built it, were listening to disco-music all night, disturbing the animals) was filed with monks and monks and monks.. and they all chanted one voice… For me personally it was a heartbreakingly strong experience, and I was taken by this wave into some forgotten Tibetan life, that feeling „Oh, I did experience this stuff already many times in the past, I know this!“…

So back to my Mauna, I have realized that I am communicating with people much more than when I spoke. I also try not to use body-language so I rather keep away from people, but when I am with them, I must use body-language, and it is always a fight to make them understand what I mean. Some people have some telepathic abilities, and know right away what I mean, what is interesting. So I am doing a lot of laundry now, also finding firewood in the forest and making fire became my voluntary duty…So when I am around the fire, Milli comes and speaks to me about deep things which she did not do before, and I feel we are totally at the same opinion, so it is an easy case for me, I am just bowing for „yes-yes, „exactly“… Then when she goes to bed (actually to sleeping bag in her tent), Andy comes, and speaks to me longly, and it sound like she is speaking out my own thoughts.. So again, I am just bowing my head….

And this is going liek this most of the time. Without the possibility to express my opinions and views, people „do the job for me“, and I do not have to spend a single word… So Mauna has its positive sides. But also negative one… Like I cannot speak for me that I am hungry or this me like that not, and body-language is somehow confusing to the Nepali volunteers who cook food and tea during this period… So I am most of the time just standing around the kitchen, wishing someone to notice me, but there are many similar hanging-around people who do not want to eat, so usually I am somehow left out… So then I sit near other, who eat, in the hope some volunteer will see me… But just when they have served the last one, they do not return with offering anymore… So concerning food I find myself in an embarrassing situation, when I have to find other people to get me my food, like Andy, some monks or Gangaji, Dawaji etc… And when finally I decided for a dramatical change: I will then fast and it will be easier for everyone, and prepared for the fast with secretly eating a lot of milk-rice left in the kitchen, then that evening all volunteers focus on me and not stopping to offer me supper… So again, big fight to explain them in body-language, that „no, thank you, I have already eaten, three plates of your tasty milk-rice, and I am totally full so I don’t take supper this time“… They are worried, consult seriously with each-other, „why you did not serve that woman?“, „did she eat?“ „why she doesn’t eat?“…

Of yes, be prepared for the Nepali mentality if you come here. Nepalese are extremely caring about your well-being, comfort, hunger and thirst, and very long we were strictly forbidden even to help them with washing dishes or carrying water from the spring! But in the same time, for no apparent reason, they can also ignore you totally, not to answer your question and just look aside as if you are a bunch of air-molecules only… This can seem very impolite from a Western-upbringing view, but etiquette is different here. Not better, not worse, just different…

So I just wanted to express myself in writing to you, and to give the news, that Guruji is very happy if someone comes to take the Vow. I forgot to write (but i am sure there will be more info on this from Andy), that we have a new Western monk among us, Mike. Who came here as a lay person, and today or tomorrow leaves in red robes… So this is a really fruitful time for Guruji’s effort to save humans from suffering by leading them to the path of liberation by the self-sacrifice of a Boddhisattva. You might ask, if I myself made this Vow as well. No, I haven’t. My case is a little different, but let me keep this private. Time will show what kind of Vow, if any, I will take in front of Guruji. Right now I just have this Mauna Vow, which is quite demanding, and I am regularly forget about it (like early morning, half asleep, asking Andy what is the time, for example). One thing is sure: I am dedicating daily my whole life to this great saint, and day by day I have a greater respect, faith and love for him. It is just not stopping, just growing gradually…

Om namo Guru Buddha Gyani!

Will write you next time, and giving you reports instead of Andy, who is leaving for Japan now.

With love,

marici

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Add star  lovetruthjoy@gmail.com<lovetruthjoy@gmail.com> Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:05 PM
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List of suggestions of international devotees raised at the meeting of local “inhabitants of the Halkoriya settlement” (about 20 people currently), presented by Khenpo:

Reason of making this list of suggestions:

We, foreigners would like to express our thanks for your hospitality, friendliness and that you all are so kind to us. Thanks to your behavior to us we can feel here like at home. There are only a few things, which we collected and discussed, by which we think we could make this place more faithful to Dharma Sangha’s message. Because, after all, he is the only and main reason we all are here, though sometimes some people maybe tend to forget…

So we foreigners decided to hand over a list of soft suggestions to the local devotees, by which, we are convinced; we better fulfill the teachings of Dharma Sangha. After spending here some weeks, we have found some elements in the behavior of people to each-other, to the animals and the forest, which elements are in our opinion not in tune with Dharma Sangha’s wish. Let us please express them, so that you can also see how we feel about the atmosphere of Halkoriya, and how seriously we take our Guru’s words. We are learning a lot of things from the spiritual traditions of Nepal, as well as Guruji’s teaching, and in exchange we would like to offer some positive aspects of the Western lifestyle and approach. For example, in the West we have devastated our nature so much, that nowadays people already started to understand how important it is to keep our nature, forests, fields, animals etc. away from the influence of human lifestyle, chemicals, rubbish etc. The West has already enjoyed a materially comfortable lifestyle, and yet people did not get happier. So, for example, many international visitors who are here now or will come in the future could be quite disappointed to find out that here can be a big emphasis on external signs of material richness, and that many local people associate spirituality with richness, fame here.

Please understand that we foreigners have all travelled thousands of kilometers, prepared many years and spent many resources and left our family members for long time just to be able to be near to Dharma Sangha, and for us this place is a holy land. We are taking seriously each of his words and teachings. But we are sad that many devotees in Halkoriya tend to forget that the main reason why we are all here, which is only Dharma Sangha and his teachings. We are not here in Halkoriya for entertainment, worldly pleasures, comfort or possessing material objects.

Please do understand that we, the four international visitors, have sacrificed our jobs, time spent with family etc. just to be able to come here and spend time here, and it is very sad that we do not see local people to follow Dharma Sangha‘s moral rules in everyday life, and especially his call for serious spiritual practice. This atmosphere can be strongly demoralizing and deterring for those international visitors who plan to visit Halkoriya in the future, and if you wish more foreigners to come here and stay, we are asking you to reconsider certain points of your behavior to each other, to the animals and the plants of the jungle. We would like to emphasize that we fully understand the words of Dharma Sangha, according to which Dharma is not an outer system or organization, but Dharma must come from inside each person.

So this list of suggestions is just a collection of our ideas, how to keep the words and teachings of Dharma Sangha at this site. We are also afraid that the behavior of people here to each other, animals and the forest is exactly the reason why did Dharma Sangha decide to move the people of this settlement to Ratanpuri after the Mahadarshan. So let’s everyone reconsider how much do we follow his teachings and how seriously we take him, and question ourselves if we are willing start to take his spiritual message seriously.

1. We all asking you not to kick into the dogs and cats, not to torture them by teasing. Some of us have seen 4 very serious incidents of torturing dog puppies and kittens!! Please respect that this place is a holy place and Guruji loves animals. Any suffering of an animal which we cause creates a bad karma, even if it seems a good fun for us: animals take it seriously and for them it is a traumatic experience.

2. In the beginning of his meditational practice Dharma Sangha once complained that „MY ALL LIFE’S PRACTICE IS MADE JUST AN ENTERTAINMENT IN THE EYES OF PEOPLE“

Let us always remind ourselves that all the time he is in deep ascetic meditation, while many people at the site listen to pop-music, spend their time on plain talks and chatter, are very noisy …. etc. Please every time you are spending your time in plain entertainment, noisy chatter etc., realize why are we here, and that there is the guru in this forest who is sitting alone in the cold and sacrificed everything for our liberation…. If we are really here for Guruji, then we should respect what he is doing for all humankind, and at least to try to follow his spiritual practice and behavior. Please be aware, that many international followers who come here and plan to come are interested in a meditative atmosphere and not a place with pop-music from mobile phones and having a good fun. Most Westerners, who come here, are taking Guruji’s ascetic practice seriously, and he is an example for them, so they would like to follow his meditative lifestyle as much as possible. But it is impossible in the site of Halkoriya, and  anyone who wishes to meditate must actually escape from this place to the forest or the fields just to find some silence… So the big paradox here in Halkoriya is, that so near to the greatest meditator of the world actually none can find enough peace and conditions to practice meditation!

We are aware that Guruji does not wanted this community here anymore, after Mahadarshan, and we think that the main reason is exactly the fact that most people here take his meditational practice as an entertainment, not a spiritual path to follow! We wish that you all think deeply about the consequences of your behavior and res pect all those who wish to meditate in Halkoriya.

2. Rubbish

In the West there is a powerful ecological movement, to keep our Earth free from rubbish which is artificial, like plastics. Plastics make many birds to die, because they swallow them. Plastics should be kept away from the jungle, and kept in rubbish bins, and then carried out of the site. We see that even people from the site leave much plastic rubbish in the jungle and the field.

3. Spitting

For international visitors the habit of spitting on the ground, even if speaking with someone, is very unpleasant. We have seen people blowing their noses into their palms and then washing our dishes… These habits are not only impolite, but also spread the bacteria of diseases to other people. For this reason Andy has bought handkerchiefs for blowing one’s nose, but we do not see many people to use them. This habit can be very difficult to accept by foreign visitors who plan to come for Mahapranidhan or Mahadarshan. We are asking you not to spit on the floor at least in the kitchen area and Guruji’s enclosed area, and not to blow your noses into your palms, with which you plan to cook food or similar.

Please think twice if your spitting habit is in the proper place, before you do it…

4. International visitors, especially from the West, have usually very strong ecological feeling, because we have destroyed many of our natural resources already, so we started to protect our forests and animals. But here in Nepal, it seems, ecology is still not taken very seriously. In our opinion a holy site where the most ecology-minded guru, Dharma Sangha, is meditating, should also carry the signs of his message of gentle behavior to the nature, plants, animals, trees. It is very easy to misbalance the harmony of nature. Our general point of you (apart from Milli) is, that:

– There should be no stone-concrete houses in the Halkoriya forest, if not especially requested by Guruji

– Only building from natural materials (bamboo, wood, clay) of tents should be here

– Any construction of a water pipe and tank is a too big change for the natural balance of this place

– We came to a conclusion that implementing fish from outside into Guruji’s pound was an insensitive decision, as this can disbalance the lake‘s flora and fauna

5. Everyone behaves very nice to us foreigners, but we have experienced that sometimes some Nepali people are not behaving to some others the best way. It seems that laughing at other people’s inabilities became a habit, which no one really minds. Also some intolerance to other people’s needs could be detected around us, like shouting at night when others are sleeping.

6. We have offered many times to help to carry drinking water from the spring, but we were always told that we must not go there and cannot help with the water. But then we saw many volunteers and even small children can go to the spring for drinking water. We do not really understand this type of discrimination, and what is the reason for it. So please explain us why we, foreigners, cannot take drinking water from the spring, and must rely on those who can. Many times there is not enough drinking water in the kitchens, and that creates situations when we have to ask someone else to carry water for us, just because we got thirsty. Many of us think that this is not right. All of us who are here have huge respect to Guruji’s wish, and would never afford to go inside the enclosed area without permission, and it is a kind of mistrust shown to us, compared to the trust of small children who can go there for water without any adults just like that…

7. As the warm weather is approaching and as we are quite a lot of people in the site at a regular basis, the issue of using the forest as a toilet starts to be more and more serious. Andy goes around picking up used toilet papers and burning them, but this should be done by all of us once a time. Also we should dig the things we leave behind into a hole and cover with earth, because there are many serious diseases which can be carried by flies from these to food, like dysentery, and some parts of the forest also smell a lot. For this reason we have discussed with Andy the possibility that everyone could have a small spade to use for toilet, so that the forest around us stays clean and safe. This would be an ecological solution, good for the forest and good for the people as well.

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Thank you, Marici. May I post some of your future reports on
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Marici,
Nice to received your long experiences jungle work for human charity and by the ways did Guruji give you new name.

Om Namo Guru Buddha Gyani

Chong

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Dear Marici and LTJ:
Marici: deep, deep thank you for your message. I really appreciate
your comittment and all the detail you have shared about the mission
and your silence vow. I am very moved and grateful. Of course the same
deepest thanks to dear LTJ, how wonderful your vows and your sharing.
I am humbled.
Love,
Ka

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Marici hang in there – you are in the land of Oz (please emphasize the
wizard part)

What I am about to say may be off abit here and there yet from what I
remember and how I feel it   ===
remember when you were at that restaurant somewhere in Poland and you
just met that man and you had both ordered and and you started talking
about spiritual things and when your wonderful, healthy, high
vibrating food that smelled and looked so good arrived neither of you
were hungry and hardly touched your food because of the spiritual high
that your connection caused.  You are at the same Jungle that I was
recently being challenged in ways I know.  A vow of silence that after
you choose to take it,you are being encouraged to continue.  Learning
much and when you want to eat and are hungry you are somehow not
catered to and when you choose to fast everyone is concerned that you
are getting enough.  Keep in mind you are very near one who is not
eating and drinking and is showing you the way.  I am in know way
suggesting what you might do yet i am telling you to follow your heart
and know the way is profound and you have all the skills to follow the
path.  it has led you right where you are and How amazing is that?

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Marici

You Say
“Right now I just have this Mauna Vow, which is quite demanding.  One
thing is sure:  I am dedicating daily my whole life to this great
saint, and day by day I
have a greater respect, faith and love for him. It is just not
stopping, just growing gradually…”
“Will write you next time, and giving you reports instead of Andy, who
is leaving for Japan now.”

It is a Jungle out there and by reports you are in it.  I am so glad
you are.  You have taken your vow of silence (Mauna) that is so
amazing and it is to be respected.  There was a day, being a manager
of this site, you greeted members, answered most every question,
counterbalanced philosophical questions and shared your most amazing
past with us.  That is missed yet it is not up to any one of us to
fulfill that role – it is any one of us with compassion and a
willingness to serve others that allow any member to give that a
shot.  I remember when you started doing that on your own.

I see you can communicate in writing yet with respect you do well to
minimize the twaddle, so to speak.  You must be learning so much as
you have indicated in this thread.  With Andrea/Jyampa Dolma in Japan
I am glad you are there with presence.  I know if there is something
we need to know you will post it here.  Keep in mind Semyon’s request
to post it on his site, if you feel it worthy include a permission.

I thought of you last night, when remembering that others say the
things to you that you wish to express.  We have connected nicely in
the past and I wish I could do that with more ease.  I remember how
you do not take kindly when we put words in your mouth in a
misrepresenting way.  That must be challenging when someone speaks for
you and you vow to remain silent.  In a way it is probably ok to allow
the twaddle exist as your inner tantra grows and you find that in
itself provides a continuity.  I am sure you would have your own way
to say it and forgive me if that is shaping you when I want more to
just connect.

Know that you can say Hi with a blank page – on the other hand you
have provided a whole slew of paragraphs late last February.  This is
March and I just noticed today is the New Moon 🙂 How Auspicious can
that be where you are from your perspective . . .
hmmmm the opposite of a hoooowwwllll is silence

Flax Seed
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Warm greetings to all of you my dearest Dharma friends throughout the world!

It’s me Catherine, with a new name: Jyampa Lhashang, so generously given by our precious Dharma Sangha most surprisingly after that I made my vows in front of him together with Dawa, Veronique and Kim. (As some of you know, Dawa became Jyampa Yeshe, Kim became Jyampa Kidwen, and Veronique became Jyampa Tsyoshang. Marie-Soleil, who made her vows the day after with Ivy became Jyampa Lhamo, and Ivy became Jyampa Lhaden.)
The only reason for me not to have sent news until now since I returned was that I had to cope with several days of VERY slow recovery from an uneasy journey back home.

But, how you were in my heart, and how I was grateful to read everyone’s mail, Marici’s lovely reports, Jyampa Dolma’s (Andy), Jyampa Dorje’s(Michael), Flax Seed’s innumerous beautiful words as deep and supportive as always, etc, etc!

I could only manage to open all those mails and wait for my strength to knock at the door again at last. Today is the day!

 

I am back home and I miss Guruji, his family, the sounds and smells of the jungle around him, Khenpo and the lovely people working with him, Jyampa Yeshe’s(Dawa’s) loving family.
Thinking as I use to that I might die tomorrow so let it be without any regrets, I had to rush to Nepal and join my prayers to the ones of those who, like me, could work it out to be there.

All the time I believed that I was there on behalf of all of you who wanted but couldn’t work it out. I know that I took those vows of course in my name, but as if it were on behalf of many of you, and that I received the great present of this new and very desired name just as if it were you who did.

There is no illusion in my mind as to the fact that if all these blessings could be given to me, they were potentially given to you all the more! Just wait and see!
Marici, you were too kind to thank me for the very few things I managed to put in my travel bag. I was sorry actually that it was so little. Yet, it is a satisfaction to know how useful indeed they were, and that for instance, those humble scissors became the instruments of such a holy ceremony.

You and me had those deep eye’talks which prove that eyes manage to share what’s most important. I wish though you would let me know more about many of the aims and fruits of a vow of silence. How strong you are !

 

The embarrassment now for someone like me is to find a way to express without failure a gratitude and a joy for those moments, barefoot at dawn in a still very fresh and damp forest, near Dharma Sangha, which can’t refer to anything earthly, as the beauty of this realm is so completely “out of this world”!

What stays with me like an eternal blueprint : The wonder to catch a glimpse from the distance as you come closer and closer to the site, of one who was sitting there wrapped in a simple sheet over one shoulder through the cold night, keeping vigil and praying the deepest prayers for the world sake while you were trying to sleep long hours keeping as warm as possible inside tents by 5°C. His ceaseless calm countenance, his striking immobility which enhance the permanence of his outstanding access to the invisible world. Definitely, there is a chance when you approach his aura, to taste some of this elixir he tells us about in his marvellous Loving Great Prayers for World Peace.

Knowing no more how long was a second, and much less an hour, I wished though our earthly time would stop for good, and that we would be permitted to stay more and breathe in this sphere and grow with its pure nourishment. However, it was painfully obvious to me at times,  in front of this perfectly transparent mirror that I had a long way to go to become pure and transparent myself. But His unfailing Maitri-loving-kindness gave me confidence that I could walk this path, though it looked sometimes like climbing the Everest.

 

A great support for our little Googlegroup bunch was that we shared with one another all the love in our hearts and instantly became a real spiritual family. It was so much fun and joy for me to share a little tent with Jyampa Kidwen. Last time I camped was at least 30 years ago… I had forgotten I was so tall !!! We became all the closer !
Jyampa Dolma has nourished us constantly with lots of stimulating news and stories, and constantly did all she could to open every possible door for us to receive unexpected blessings. She really acts as a spiritual mother for us all. Her presence and support to me was an extra blessing each and every day.

Jyampa Yeshe was a cream of kindness and devotion, never stopping making everyone feel comfortable and happy, and he came up with the treat of treats : an invitation to visit Dharma Sangha’s family. The whole Bamjon family made a wonderful impression on me. Their unshakable simplicity, humility and kindness means so much to me in terms of confirming how pure the foundation of Dharma Sangha has been all the way. We were invited in their humble home and they offered us a delicious meal. It was such a grace to sit for a while in Dharma Sangha’s tiny room : as extraordinarily holy as it is tiny, and sit with the parents in their humble bedroom-living room upstairs. The atmosphere was so lovely and homy that I would have gladly stayed and lived there with them. I miss them really.

Many tears of gratitude were shed by several of us there and at the first and second meditation sites where Jyampa Yeshe took us too. The awareness of receiving tremendous blessings of unique spiritual beauty was overwhelming.

 

We did our best to chant the prayers in phonetic Nepali, together with the thousands of Monks and local people gathered for four days. All the details and photos of this official part, you know already from other testimonies here and on etapasvi.com. I won’t go into it, besides saying what a grace it was to read them, understanding from the English version the depth and poetic beauty of Dharma Sangha’s unique expression. I just hope that I will have given my legs sufficient training for next time to sit on straw for four days. (Just so you know it was providing in my case all sorts of penance.)
Again, my deep love and gratitude to everyone I met in Nepal, and to all of you who around the world were absolutely there with us in heart and prayers, thank you so much for your support!

Jyampa Lhashang
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Dear Sister Lhashang,

Your story was so beautifully put, It brought back so many great
memories. It meant so much to me that we were all there together. I
hope that we all get to see each other soon. Thanks for your warmth
and kindness.

Brother Dorje

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Dear Jyampa Lhashang,

What a touching letter you have written!  You express so nicely how I feel about what we had experienced during these wonderful days!  I would sign my name after yours for all those words and gratitudes that you share…  🙂

All the people we have met there were so wonderful and helpful, I miss them very much.  And since I am back home, I feel a little bit like a stranger in this ordinary life.  I try to stay in the present but my mind always takes me back in the past, when I was surrounded by my spiritual family, the beautiful nature and, of course, by our venerable Dharma Sangha.

Thank you, dear Sister, for so much Love and Gratitude.

With all my love and friendship,

Jyampa Lhamo (Marie-Soleil)

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Marici

Call me slow but I just got the jist of that whole diamond/thunderbolt
thing you always refer to when talking about Dharma Sangha.

Vajrayana – the thunderbolt vehicle or the diamond vehicle – either
way you cut it – it cuts to the quick.  We are surrounded by our own
minds projections.  The diamond cuts through it the thunderbolt zaps
it and you are in the eye of the holder of the dorje.  Nothing better
than that V O W you have for protection (from your own projections).
Empty and notice the duality that springs forth from your mind . . .
empty again.  Not saying I could do it or handle it but you have found
your way there and no time like the present.  If you see a tiger or an
elephant don’t worry it is probably just your mind.  In fact enjoy
their beauty, Now if you see a Monkey then break your VOW and say to
it, a little less chatter please.

Flax seed

On Mar 6, 9:46 pm, Jyampa Lhamo <jyampalh…@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Dear Jyampa Lhashang,
>
> What a touching letter you have written!  You express so nicely how I feel about what we had experienced during these wonderful days!  I would sign my name after yours for all those words and gratitudes that you share…  🙂
>
> All the people we have met there were so wonderful and helpful, I miss them very much.  And since I am back home, I feel a little bit like a stranger in this ordinary life.  I try to stay in the present but my mind always takes me back in the past, when I was surrounded by my spiritual family, the beautiful nature and, of course, by our venerable Dharma Sangha.
>
> Thank you, dear Sister, for so much Love and Gratitude.
>
> With all my love and friendship,
>
> Jyampa Lhamo (Marie-Soleil)
>
> — En date de : Dim, 6.3.11, Catherine.Weber <weber.catherin…@wanadoo.fr> a écrit :
>
> De : Catherine.Weber <weber.catherin…@wanadoo.fr>
> Objet : re: [buddhaboy] From Marici
> À : buddhaboy@googlegroups.com
> Date: dimanche 6 mars 2011 11 h 51
>
>    Warm greetings to all of you my dearest Dharma friends throughout the world!  It’s me Catherine, with a new name: Jyampa Lhashang, so generously given by our precious Dharma Sangha most surprisingly after that I made my vows in front of him together with Dawa, Veronique and Kim. (As some of you know, Dawa became Jyampa Yeshe, Kim became Jyampa Kidwen, and Veronique became Jyampa Tsyoshang. Marie-Soleil, who made her vows the day after with Ivy became Jyampa Lhamo, and Ivy became Jyampa Lhaden.)
>   The only reason for me not to have sent news until now since I returned was that I had to cope with several days of VERY slow recovery from an uneasy journey back home.  But, how you were in my heart, and how I was grateful to read everyone’s mail, Marici’s lovely reports, Jyampa Dolma’s (Andy), Jyampa Dorje’s(Michael), Flax Seed’s innumerous beautiful words as deep and supportive as always, etc, etc!  I could only manage to open all those mails and wait for my strength to knock at the door again at last. Today is the day!     I am back home and I miss Guruji, his family, the sounds and smells of the jungle around him, Khenpo and the lovely people working with him, Jyampa Yeshe’s(Dawa’s) loving family.
>   Thinking as I use to that I might die tomorrow so let it be without any regrets, I had to rush to Nepal and join my prayers to the ones of those who, like me, could work it out to be there.  All the time I believed that I was there on behalf of all of you who wanted but couldn’t work it out. I know that I took those vows of course in my name, but as if it were on behalf of many of you, and that I received the great present of this new and very desired name just as if it were you who did.  There is no illusion in my mind as to the fact that if all these blessings could be given to me, they were potentially given to you all the more! Just wait and see!
>   Marici, you were too kind to thank me for the very few things I managed to put in my travel bag. I was sorry actually that it was so little. Yet, it is a satisfaction to know how useful indeed they were, and that for instance, those humble scissors became the instruments of such a holy ceremony.You and me had those deep eye’talks which prove that eyes manage to share what’s most important. I wish though you would let me know more about many of the aims and fruits of a vow of silence. How strong you are !
>      The embarrassment now for someone like me is to find a way to express without failure a gratitude and a joy for those moments, barefoot at dawn in a still very fresh and damp forest, near Dharma Sangha, which can’t refer to anything earthly, as the beauty of this realm is so completely “out of this world”!   What stays with me like an eternal blueprint : The wonder to catch a glimpse from the distance as you come closer and closer to the site, of one who was sitting there wrapped in a simple sheet over one shoulder through the cold night, keeping vigil and praying the deepest prayers for the world sake while you were trying to sleep long hours keeping as warm as possible inside tents by 5°C. His ceaseless calm countenance, his striking immobility which enhance the permanence of his outstanding access to the invisible world. Definitely, there is a chance when you approach his aura, to taste some of this elixir he tells us about in his
>  marvellous Loving Great Prayers for World Peace.  Knowing no more how long was a second, and much less an hour, I wished though our earthly time would stop for good, and that we would be permitted to stay more and breathe in this sphere and grow with its pure nourishment. However, it was painfully obvious to me at times,  in front of this perfectly transparent mirror that I had a long way to go to become pure and transparent myself. But His unfailing Maitri-loving-kindness gave me confidence that I could walk this path, though it looked sometimes like climbing the Everest.       A great support for our little Googlegroup bunch was that we shared with one another all the love in our hearts and instantly became a real spiritual family. It was so much fun and joy for me to share a little tent with Jyampa Kidwen. Last time I camped was at least 30 years ago… I had forgotten I was so tall !!! We became all the closer !
>   Jyampa Dolma has nourished us constantly with lots of stimulating news and stories, and constantly did all she could to open every possible door for us to receive unexpected blessings. She really acts as a spiritual mother for us all. Her presence and support to me was an extra blessing each and every day.   Jyampa Yeshe was a cream of kindness and devotion, never stopping making everyone feel comfortable and happy, and he came up with the treat of treats : an invitation to visit Dharma Sangha’s family. The whole Bamjon family made a wonderful impression on me. Their unshakable simplicity, humility and kindness means so much to me in terms of confirming how pure the foundation of Dharma Sangha has been all the way. We were invited in their humble home and they offered us a delicious meal. It was such a grace to sit for a while in Dharma Sangha’s tiny room : as extraordinarily holy as it is tiny, and sit with the parents in their humble
>  bedroom-living room upstairs. The atmosphere was so lovely and homy that I would have gladly stayed and lived there with them. I miss them really.   Many tears of gratitude were shed by several of us there and at the first and second meditation sites where Jyampa Yeshe took us too. The awareness of receiving tremendous blessings of unique spiritual beauty was overwhelming.      We did our best to chant the prayers in phonetic Nepali, together with the thousands of Monks and local people gathered for four days. All the details and photos of this official part, you know already from other testimonies here and on etapasvi.com. I won’t go into it, besides saying what a grace it was to read them, understanding from the English version the depth and poetic beauty of Dharma Sangha’s unique expression. I just hope that I will have given my legs sufficient training for next time to sit on straw for four days. (Just so you know it was providing in my case
>  all sorts of penance.)
>   Again, my deep love and gratitude to everyone I met in Nepal, and to all of you who around the world were absolutely there with us in heart and prayers, thank you so much for your support!Jyampa Lhashang

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Jyampal Dorje/Michael,
I am happy and i always pray your healthy, happiness all your teaching journey from Guru Dharma Sangha..Om Namo Guru Buddha Gyani

Chong
Malaysia

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मरीचि marīci

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THIS ONE IS A VERY PRACTICAL, BUT MAYBE FUNNY OR INTERESTING TO LOOK
BACK AT MY SENSELESS EFFORTS IN IMPROVING CONDITIONS IN HALKORIA….

marici

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List of suggestions of international devotees raised at the meeting of local
“inhabitants of the Halkoriya settlement” (about 20 people currently),
presented by Khenpo:

*Reason of making this list of suggestions*:

*We, foreigners would like to express our thanks for your hospitality,
friendliness and that you all are so kind to us. Thanks to your behavior to
us we can feel here like at home. There are only a few things, which we
collected and discussed, by which we think we could make this place more
faithful to Dharma Sangha’s message. Because, after all, he is the only and
main reason we all are here, though sometimes some people maybe tend to
forget… *

*So we foreigners decided to hand over a list of soft suggestions to the
local devotees, by which, we are convinced; we better fulfill the teachings
of Dharma Sangha. After spending here some weeks, we have found some
elements in the behavior of people to each-other, to the animals and the
forest, which elements are in our opinion not in tune with Dharma Sangha’s
wish. Let us please express them, so that you can also see how we feel about
the atmosphere of Halkoriya, and how seriously we take our Guru’s words. We
are learning a lot of things from the spiritual traditions of Nepal, as well
as Guruji’s teaching, and in exchange we would like to offer some positive
aspects of the Western lifestyle and approach. For example, in the West we
have devastated our nature so much, that nowadays people already started to
understand how important it is to keep our nature, forests, fields, animals
etc. away from the influence of human lifestyle, chemicals, rubbish etc. The
West has already enjoyed a materially comfortable lifestyle, and yet people
did not get happier. So, for example, many international visitors who are
here now or will come in the future could be quite disappointed to find out
that here can be a big emphasis on external signs of material richness, and
that many local people associate spirituality with richness, fame here.  *

*Please understand that we foreigners have all travelled thousands of
kilometers, prepared many years and spent many resources and left our family
members for long time just to be able to be near to Dharma Sangha, and for
us this place is a holy land. We are taking seriously each of his words and
teachings. But we are sad that many devotees in Halkoriya tend to forget
that the main reason why we are all here, which is only Dharma Sangha and
his teachings. We are not here in Halkoriya for entertainment, worldly
pleasures, comfort or possessing material objects. *

*Please do understand that we, the four international visitors, have
sacrificed our jobs, time spent with family etc. just to be able to come
here and spend time here, and it is very sad that we do not see local people
to follow Dharma Sangha‘s moral rules in everyday life, and especially his
call for serious spiritual practice. This atmosphere can be strongly
demoralizing and deterring for those international visitors who plan to
visit Halkoriya in the future, and if you wish more foreigners to come here
and stay, we are asking you to reconsider certain points of your behavior to
each other, to the animals and the plants of the jungle. We would like to
emphasize that we fully understand the words of Dharma Sangha, according to
which Dharma is not an outer system or organization, but Dharma must come
from inside each person. *

*So this list of suggestions is just a collection of our ideas, how to keep
the words and teachings of Dharma Sangha at this site. We are also afraid
that the behavior of people here to each other, animals and the forest is
exactly the reason why did Dharma Sangha decide to move the people of this
settlement to Ratanpuri after the Mahadarshan. So let’s everyone reconsider
how much do we follow his teachings and how seriously we take him, and
question ourselves if we are willing start to take his spiritual message
seriously. *

1. We all asking you not to kick into the dogs and cats, not to torture them
by teasing. Some of us have seen 4 very serious incidents of torturing dog
puppies and kittens!! Please respect that this place is a holy place and
Guruji loves animals. Any suffering of an animal which we cause creates a
bad karma, even if it seems a good fun for us: animals take it seriously and
for them it is a traumatic experience.

2. In the beginning of his meditational practice Dharma Sangha once
complained that „MY ALL LIFE’S PRACTICE IS MADE JUST AN ENTERTAINMENT IN THE
EYES OF PEOPLE“

Let us always remind ourselves that all the time he is in deep ascetic
meditation, while many people at the site listen to pop-music, spend their
time on plain talks and chatter, are very noisy …. etc. Please every time
you are spending your time in plain entertainment, noisy chatter etc.,
realize why are we here, and that there is the guru in this forest who is
sitting alone in the cold and sacrificed everything for our liberation…. If
we are really here for Guruji, then we should respect what he is doing for
all humankind, and at least to try to follow his spiritual practice and
behavior. Please be aware, that many international followers who come here
and plan to come are interested in a *meditative atmosphere* and not a place

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are asking you not to spit on the floor at least in the kitchen area and
Guruji’s enclosed area, and not to blow your noses into your palms, with
which you plan to cook food or similar.*

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Brahmachakra

Brahmachakra

marici

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This is more for my own interest and not really understandable for non-yogis, but I am sharing what I have found about the Brahma-chakra that Buddha Boy is speaking about here:”In the beginning, starting from the seventh chakra while reaching at Brahma chakra, Klesha (the poisons) and Mara (evil) were destroyed and invisible lights entered into the body. The knowledge of Maitri of Lok (the world) and Alok (beyond the world) has been gained.”http://www.etapasvi.com/en/teachings/show/id/43/title/opening-speech-for-the-2008-pujaI rather felt than knew with my rational mind, that this must be one of those chakras already above the Thousand-petalled Lotus (Saharasrara Chakra). As when he speaks about the “seventh chakra”, it is the Sahasrara, and then anything else must be above it. Very few beings are pure enough to reach the seventh chakra in this age, and to get even further (and return back) is only for the appointed, the chosen…Here is what Gorakshanath has to say about the Brahma Chakra in “the following article, called “System of Chakras according to Gorakshanatha,” by the esteemed tantrik scholar Gopinath Kaviraj”:”On crossing this one comes up to the Brahmarandhra in the cranium (mUrdhasthAna), with its multi-coloured 1,000 petals. This is the so called Sahasrara of the mystic literature – the Aim and End of all spiritual progress. It is here that the Guru and the Chaitanya Sakti reside.One would naturally expect that the series of chakras would come to an end here. But the picture on which the above account is based, mentions 6 chakras more beyond the Sahasrara, viz. (a) Urdharandhra, (b). Bhramaraguha, (c) Akunthapitha Punyagara, (d) Kolhata, (e) Vajradanda and (f) Niradhara Paramajyotischakra. The Urdharandhra, called Talu chakra in the Ms, is seated in the Talima and is a 64-lobed chakra, presided by Goraksanatha and Siddhanta sakti. This statement is interesting as it gives us an idea of what the followers of the path thought in connection with the founder of their school. The Bhramaraguha, also called Alekha, i. e. Alaksya chakra (called Brahma Chakra6 in the Ms), is the place, where samadhi-yoga ensues, and prana and manas cease to work. The lotus is described as furnished with ten millions of lobes and wonderfully brilliant. The presiding God of this centre is Alaksyanatha, the Sakti called Maya (= Mahamaya?; Akula in the Ms.) and the Rsi Mahavisnu.”http://www.shivashakti.com/gorchak.htm&#8211;
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No, that person I think would not need it :-)) At least if he really is. Of those, who only think it, I do not worry….My yoga teacher used to say, that those who did not reach Sahasrara can be called only yoga practitioners, and those who did, are starting to be yogis. So that’s why I wrote it.marici2010/11/6 Rahul… <rahul3393@gmail.com >- Show quoted text —
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Thousand is still no infinite. Though for those of us, who have been stuck in this samsara for so many ages, this long forgotten experience seems as the highest. And it is definitely the highest at human level.2010/11/6 Rahul… <rahul3393@gmail.com >- Show quoted text —
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:45 AM
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Yes, you are getting near to my point, why did I touch this topic at all. It is about our dear Guruji’s exceptional attainment, not about some intellectual satisfaction.marici
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:58 AM
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We do experience it as infinite, ever-self-creating, never-ending, all-enlighting. But we also experience it as a gate to go further.
Would not an ant experience the Sahara desert as infinite? (strange coincidence : Saha(sra)ra :-)marici2010/11/6 Rahul… <rahul3393@gmail.com >- Show quoted text —
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while Shaharar, is explained 100 in purana, while in vedas language this would be purna… means perfect or infinite…Even if someone ask, hoiw many stars r there in the sky, answer would be shashrara… and even how many grain of sand is there in shahara desrt it would shashrar….and another co-incidence..ant in sanskrit is pronounced differently but same spelling, ant….like vedant…Ant means end~- Show quoted text –
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Yes, I did not realize I am not replying to you in the public part . So I kept myself back (all the time not checking if this conversation is in the public or private .-)))When I started with yoga and spiritual interests, I have read some books, but they were boring and I did not understand what are they about. It sounded like plain speculation to me. So I did not read such books anymore, and concentrated on practice.After 3 years  of practice I went through many stages, and I became perceptive of a different reality. It was like “growing new eyes”… You suddenly see the truth, the meaning of texts about the stages you went through. But not before. It would be just philosophical theory, using your logic, and not the living experience…2010/11/6 Rahul… <rahul3393@gmail.com >- Show quoted text —
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the third eye…..http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2188/1666997123_60f32fef30.jpgAnd I was checking everytime that may u not reply this mail in group page…because ther my words may be read as criticizm to ur post while, in reality critisizm is never my language, I seek to understand more of it …- Show quoted text –
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Now when I know I am writing to you only:
Sahasrara has
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:24 AM
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No, the reason I do not reply in public is that these teachings must be kept as much hidden as possible, and only seriously interested practitioners should learn about them. Because others would only make imaginations, and that would stuck them on the path. And most of them would not understand, and would like to intellectualize and use their logic or misleading modern texts about chakrams…This topic is too holy for me to write about it publicly.2010/11/6 Rahul… <rahul3393@gmail.com >- Show quoted text —
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Rahul…<rahul3393@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:27 AM
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Rahul…<rahul3393@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:33 AM
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:34 AM
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In my modest opinion Ram is going further the Brahma Chakra. Of course he is enlightened. There is no question about it. He is the maximum one can be on earth.And he is already at the level that he is able to enlighten others: he acts as an inner guru. Same as Maharishi, but, of course, both have their own special qualities, according to what the Highest sees as most needed in the age they are born.You can rely on the grace of Dharma Sangha, and he will be delighted to take you to God. And you will find peace, as he himself is in peace.But important is to keep his precepts in our daily life, as much as possible.2010/11/6 Rahul… <rahul3393@gmail.com >- Show quoted text —
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Rahul…<rahul3393@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:36 AM
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:38 AM
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Yes as he also told that he will teach people according to each one’s capacity of understanding. Of course, no yogi, saint or guru ever made public the most concrete path. Not even Maharishi – to this day noone knows he actually did experience kundalini, for example…”The concept is here. For two years fire video remain hidden. Ram told Dharma is for all…then his fire video was uploaded on net on his command…”Really? I did not know this. Where do you have this information from?2010/11/6 Rahul… <rahul3393@gmail.com >- Show quoted text —
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Rahul…<rahul3393@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:39 AM
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:39 AM
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:40 AM
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:51 AM
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Yes, and exactly like this come all that misunderstanding which is because people who did not experience these yet, cannot see the meaning behind words.In or above has no real use for you. Do the prescribed prayers, meditation techniques, discipline of mind etc. No need to solve if you turn inside or up, as in due time you will recognize where is the call of God coming from.Before that the most important is the approach of consciousness we do things – in daily life as well as in prayer and meditation. With the right approach, sacrifice and discipline the pranic nadis clean up and spontaneously lead our soul to the inner path, in case we have the grace!
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:54 AM
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“Possiblity – explains its in the context of word itself…possibility is infinite, or perfection!”It reminds me of the word Terthup – God of All Possibilities – as I have found the translation on the internet….There is nothing impossible for God, and nothing impossible for Dharma Sangha.
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 5:04 AM
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Rahul…<rahul3393@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 5:10 AM
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Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com > Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:41 AM
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Dear Marici
Thanks for talking to yourself and letting us listen.  Because we can
just admire the concepts that we may also have heard about even though
they are above our head.  One day we will know where to go to grounded
when things start to make sense.
Flax SeedOn Nov 6, 5:10 pm, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is more for my own interest and not really understandable for
> non-yogis, but I am sharing what I have found about the Brahma-chakra that
> Buddha Boy is speaking about here:
>
> “In the beginning, starting from the seventh chakra while reaching at Brahma
> chakra, Klesha <http://www.etapasvi.com/en/encyclopedia/show#klesha&gt; (the
> poisons) and Mara <http://www.etapasvi.com/en/encyclopedia/show#mara&gt; (evil)
> were destroyed and invisible lights entered into the body. The knowledge of
> Maitri of Lok (the world) and Alok (beyond the world) has been gained.”
>
> http://www.etapasvi.com/en/teachings/show/id/43/title/opening-speech-&#8230;
>
> I rather felt than knew with my rational mind, that this must be one of
> those chakras already above the Thousand-petalled Lotus (Saharasrara
> Chakra). As when he speaks about the “seventh chakra”, it is the Sahasrara,
> and then anything else must be above it. Very few beings are pure enough to
> reach the seventh chakra in this age, and to get even further (and return
> back) is only for the appointed, the chosen…
>
> Here is what Gorakshanath has to say about the Brahma Chakra in “the
> following article, called “System of Chakras according to Gorakshanatha,” by
> the esteemed tantrik scholar Gopinath Kaviraj”:
>
> “On crossing this one comes up to the Brahmarandhra in the cranium
> (mUrdhasthAna), with its multi-coloured 1,000 petals. This is the so
> called Sahasrara
> of the mystic literature – the Aim and End of all spiritual progress. It is
> here that the Guru and the Chaitanya Sakti reside.
>
> One would naturally expect that the series of chakras would come to an end
> here. But the picture on which the above account is based, mentions 6
> chakras more beyond the Sahasrara, viz. (a) Urdharandhra, (b). Bhramaraguha,
> (c) Akunthapitha Punyagara, (d) Kolhata, (e) Vajradanda and (f) Niradhara
> Paramajyotischakra. The Urdharandhra, called Talu chakra in the Ms, is
> seated in the Talima and is a 64-lobed chakra, presided by Goraksanatha and
> Siddhanta sakti. This statement is interesting as it gives us an idea of
> what the followers of the path thought in connection with the founder of
> their school. The Bhramaraguha, also called Alekha, i. e. Alaksya chakra
> (called Brahma Chakra6 in the Ms), is the place, where
> *samadhi-yoga*ensues, and
> *prana* and *manas* cease to work. The lotus is described as furnished with
> ten millions of lobes and wonderfully brilliant. The presiding God of this
> centre is Alaksyanatha, the Sakti called Maya (= Mahamaya?; Akula in the
> Ms.) and the *Rsi* Mahavisnu.”http://www.shivashakti.com/gorchak.htm
>
> —
> marici
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com > Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM
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Flax Seed<ryder.barry@gmail.com > Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM
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:). Here is a topic that goes over my head.  And that is a good
thing.  Some things become clear when experienced.  Thanks Marici for
this glimps of a perspective that we can attain to know.Flax SeedOn Jul 22, 3:33 am, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have found it.
>
> marici
>
>
>
> ———- Forwarded message ———-
> From: marici <zuta…@gmail.com>
> Date: 2010/11/7
> Subject: Brahmachakra
> To: buddhaboy <buddhaboy@googlegroups.com >
>
> This is more for my own interest and not really understandable for
> non-yogis, but I am sharing what I have found about the Brahma-chakra that
> Buddha Boy is speaking about here:
>
> “In the beginning, starting from the seventh chakra while reaching at Brahma
> chakra, Klesha <http://www.etapasvi.com/en/encyclopedia/show#klesha&gt; (the
> poisons) and Mara <http://www.etapasvi.com/en/encyclopedia/show#mara&gt; (evil)
> were destroyed and invisible lights entered into the body. The knowledge of
> Maitri of Lok (the world) and Alok (beyond the world) has been gained.”
>
> http://www.etapasvi.com/en/teachings/show/id/43/title/opening-speech-&#8230;
>
> I rather felt than knew with my rational mind, that this must be one of
> those chakras already above the Thousand-petalled Lotus (Saharasrara
> Chakra). As when he speaks about the “seventh chakra”, it is the Sahasrara,
> and then anything else must be above it. Very few beings are pure enough to
> reach the seventh chakra in this age, and to get even further (and return
> back) is only for the appointed, the chosen…
>
> Here is what Gorakshanath has to say about the Brahma Chakra in “the
> following article, called “System of Chakras according to Gorakshanatha,” by
> the esteemed tantrik scholar Gopinath Kaviraj”:
>
> “On crossing this one comes up to the Brahmarandhra in the cranium
> (mUrdhasthAna), with its multi-coloured 1,000 petals. This is the so
> called Sahasrara
> of the mystic literature – the Aim and End of all spiritual progress. It is
> here that the Guru and the Chaitanya Sakti reside.
>
> One would naturally expect that the series of chakras would come to an end
> here. But the picture on which the above account is based, mentions 6
> chakras more beyond the Sahasrara, viz. (a) Urdharandhra, (b).
> Bhramaraguha,(c) Akunthapitha Punyagara, (d) Kolhata, (e) Vajradanda
> and (f) Niradhara
> Paramajyotischakra. The Urdharandhra, called Talu chakra in the Ms, is
> seated in the Talima and is a 64-lobed chakra, presided by Goraksanatha and
> Siddhanta sakti. This statement is interesting as it gives us an idea of
> what the followers of the path thought in connection with the founder of
> their school. The Bhramaraguha, also called Alekha, i. e. Alaksya chakra
> (called Brahma Chakra6 in the Ms), is the place, where
> *samadhi-yoga*ensues, and
> *prana* and *manas *cease to work. The lotus  is described as furnished with
> ten millions of lobes and wonderfully brilliant.  The presiding God of this
> centre is Alaksyanatha, the Sakti called Maya (= Mahamaya?; Akula in the
> Ms.) and the *Rsi* Mahavisnu.”http://www.shivashakti.com/gorchak.htm- Show quoted text –
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Naveen Singroha<naveendhigana@gmail.com > Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:30 PM
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Inner Peace<innerpeace1979@gmail.com > Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:16 PM
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Just google 12 chakras, Many starseeds say that during the golden age many will activate the 12 chakras.Peace- Show quoted text –

 

Naveen Singroha<naveendhigana@gmail.com > Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:29 PM
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Could you elaborate please. What are starseeds and golden age?On Jul 22, 9:31 pm, Inner Peace <innerpeace1…@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just google 12 chakras, Many starseeds say that during the golden age many
> will activate the 12 chakras.
>
> Peace
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:33 AM, marici <zuta…@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have found it.
>
> > marici
>
> > ———- Forwarded message ———-
> > From: marici <zuta…@gmail.com>
> > Date: 2010/11/7
> > Subject: Brahmachakra
> > To: buddhaboy <buddhaboy@googlegroups.com >
>
> > This is more for my own interest and not really understandable for
> > non-yogis, but I am sharing what I have found about the Brahma-chakra that
> > Buddha Boy is speaking about here:
>
> > “In the beginning, starting from the seventh chakra while reaching at
> > Brahma chakra, Klesha<http://www.etapasvi.com/en/encyclopedia/show#klesha>(the poisons) and
> > Mara <http://www.etapasvi.com/en/encyclopedia/show#mara&gt; (evil) were
> > destroyed and invisible lights entered into the body. The knowledge of
> > Maitri of Lok (the world) and Alok (beyond the world) has been gained.”
>
> >http://www.etapasvi.com/en/teachings/show/id/43/title/opening-speech-&#8230;
>
> > I rather felt than knew with my rational mind, that this must be one of
> > those chakras already above the Thousand-petalled Lotus (Saharasrara
> > Chakra). As when he speaks about the “seventh chakra”, it is the Sahasrara,
> > and then anything else must be above it. Very few beings are pure enough to
> > reach the seventh chakra in this age, and to get even further (and return
> > back) is only for the appointed, the chosen…
>
> > Here is what Gorakshanath has to say about the Brahma Chakra in “the
> > following article, called “System of Chakras according to Gorakshanatha,” by
> > the esteemed tantrik scholar Gopinath Kaviraj”:
>
> > “On crossing this one comes up to the Brahmarandhra in the cranium
> > (mUrdhasthAna), with its multi-coloured 1,000 petals. This is the so called Sahasrara
> > of the mystic literature – the Aim and End of all spiritual progress. It is
> > here that the Guru and the Chaitanya Sakti reside.
>
> > One would naturally expect that the series of chakras would come to an end
> > here. But the picture on which the above account is based, mentions 6
> > chakras more beyond the Sahasrara, viz. (a) Urdharandhra, (b).
> > Bhramaraguha, (c) Akunthapitha Punyagara, (d) Kolhata, (e) Vajradanda and
> > (f) Niradhara Paramajyotischakra. The Urdharandhra, called Talu chakra in
> > the Ms, is seated in the Talima and is a 64-lobed chakra, presided by
> > Goraksanatha and Siddhanta sakti. This statement is interesting as it gives
> > us an idea of what the followers of the path thought in connection with the
> > founder of their school. The Bhramaraguha, also called Alekha, i. e.
> > Alaksya chakra (called Brahma Chakra6 in the Ms), is the place, where *
> > samadhi-yoga* ensues, and *prana* and *manas *cease to work. The lotus  is
> > described as furnished with ten millions of lobes and wonderfully brilliant.
> >  The presiding God of this centre is Alaksyanatha, the Sakti called Maya
> > (= Mahamaya?; Akula in the Ms.) and the *Rsi* Mahavisnu.”- Show quoted text –
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Inner Peace<innerpeace1979@gmail.com> Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:06 AM
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Star seeds are those who say, have memories of having come to earth from other star systems. Some say, their dna is manupilated, some say they are the decendants of fallen angels. Anyhow they have some sort of contacts, or abductions or something regarding extra terrestrial life. Golden age is the age which comes after 2012.12. 21. Which is believed that on this day earth will tremble for 11 mins sri lankan time some 4 or 4 in the morning and the earth will start rotating anticlockwise.peace- Show quoted text –
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Naveen Singroha<naveendhigana@gmail.com> Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:09 AM
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Hey thanks for this wonderful piece of information. I respect your
concern for world peace. I think everyone of us is starseed in this
world as we love, care and have feelings for others. Everyone deserves
His grace even Ungalimar. And if there is a catastrophe like earth
shaking for 11 minutes, it is never bigger than the ever continuous
catastrophy in which people more often than not fall unconscious and
forget God due to too much material dependence. According to Kripaluji
Maharaj in Vrindavan ”Doing anything else than remember Him is sin.”
And today the kaliyuga has crippled man’s consciousness to such a
level that he is completely lost in materialism. Many feel helpless as
there is no going back or way out if only material ways are to be
deployed. Human beings have to adopt spiritual ways. Even material
ways can keep us spiritual. Finding a middle way is the only solution,
a non violent feeding to this body is an example. I think Golden Age
has already set in with the birth of Dharma Sangha.On Jul 22, 11:21 pm, Inner Peace <innerpeace1…@gmail.com> wrote:
> Star seeds are those who say, have memories of having come to earth from
> other star systems. Some say, their dna is manupilated, some say they are
> the decendants of fallen angels. Anyhow they have some sort of contacts, or
> abductions or something regarding extra terrestrial life. Golden age is the
> age which comes after 2012.12. 21. Which is believed that on this day earth
> will tremble for 11 mins sri lankan time some 4 or 4 in the morning and the
> earth will start rotating anticlockwise.
>
> peace
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Naveen Singroha <naveendhig…@gmail.com>wrote:- Show quoted text –
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marici<zutakac@gmail.com> Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:35 AM
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Dear All,Unfortunately I must disclaim any connections of Brahma Chakra with “starseeds” and “golden age”. The information about the chakras is coming from traditional ancient Indian yoga sources, not New Age. I am very sorry to make you disappointed, but no end of the world theories or ufo abductions have anything to do with Brahma Chakra.मरीचि marīci- Show quoted text —
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Inner Peace<innerpeace1979@gmail.com> Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:28 AM
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Yes, As we go back to originals all humans are visitors to this earth. According to buddhist cosmology all humans come from abbassara brahma loka. And by and by they forget it and get engangled into samsara. And at each destruction time They go and be born in these brahma lokas and again be born into this world as per their karma) 2012 is not an world end. These things were told by a buddhist monk of sri lanka who is gone into heights in meditation and i spoke to him about 4 days ago too to clarify my doubts. When talking to him, he sounds like a good old friend, I can talk anything with him, for he understands and does not judge and completely i feel home. Unlike when i talk with others. It is he who said about the 11 mins. For i cannot see as far like that. As when i wanted to see my ancestors i was told i need not see them for i don’t go back there and i saw a beutiful planet. And received emense energy like never before. But other starseeds, have ancestors and get their help. This monk didn’t tell me but has told my friend that I and many have come to earth but not from planets but from heavens and brahma lokas. Because according to him since there are only 31 planes extra terrestrials cannot take birth in this earth like that. So anyway it is still confusing to me as to from where i came. Most of my realizations go hand in hand, and i can talk with him the things we are not permitted to tell the others because only the ones who realized can understand these and having him available on phone is such a gift for me. So my fears have gone away and knowing I am in the right path, also his teachings go hand in hand with forest dhamma arhants experiences. So lets hope for the best, and lets look forward for this golden age, and with dharma sangha anchoring higher frequenzies upon earth, this earth would be the said golden place, for i am tired of living on this earth. So i look forward for it earnestly.peace- Show quoted text –
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Inner Peace<innerpeace1979@gmail.com> Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM
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My Dear Marici, I told starseeds are what they claim as having abductions (not brahma chakra) You may read the words again. Of course there is a very much spiritual connection with new age and traditional ancient yoga sources, Because they follow the same and I am one who does not. I don’t follow chakra system. So this is why I though having a lot in common to starseeds differ from them, for i follow triple gem.. and have understood the deeper meaning of triple gem which they have not. and ancient yoga system cannot understand the triple gem according to my knowledge and this is my own understanding i might not be true. Having a chat with a buddhist monk i am understanding more and i would share a link for I am undergoing each change these starseeds say, the only difference is i don’t talk to any starbeings and yet my body changes as per them. And because it happens i know it is real, and for others it may be new age garbage or misinformation…Following is about the light body, which i have experienced and at the time i had told andrea about it, and after this also i have experienced this light body, and it is becoming more strong now, the same rainbow body, or diamond body which dharma sangha speaks of, this is not at all an astral body.http://spiritlibrary.com/lauren-c-gorgo/11th-phase-lightbody-ascensionThis is about shiva and shakthi, and which i am not following, and as per my buddhist monk i asked him and told him about these experiences of mine and he said when i detach from them, these won’t arise and since i was in anaryan path before (which i knew and which this monk also told and also my invisible guru also told that i was in an anaryan path and i was asked to follow his instructions to come to the aryan path) And today, the buddhist monk says I am in the aryan path and i myself feel it so i no longer follow these starseed changes, but as they say my body changes so i know these people are real, but as in everything there are many fake sites, many fake wanna be’s and also in ancient yoga system today, the masters are fake they only have book knowledge and non of those yoga teachers have ever experienced kundalini or anything. So dont’ forget that also. So lets not judge any other, for it is braking a rule of ashta shil since you are a jyampa now, you have taken these vows. Don’t let down others views so…..Since I have experienced real kundalini and know what it is, i speak through experiences, not second hand knowledge but for me, i am only interested in overcoming desires as dharma sangha also told me, the day he sent spiritual energy into my body so i don’t concentrate on chakras or book knowldege but overcoming desires which i have come so close now..

 

I respect your views Marici…
http://consciousco-creationalcoaching.blogspot.com/2011/07/love-takes-lead-return-of-feminine.html

 

(I am not interested in sharing starseeds sites here, but because a circumstance occured i shated this)

 

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Inner Peace<innerpeace1979@gmail.com> Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:59 AM
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 Marici, Did Dharma sangha used the word “end” in the speech given at night or is it a mistake in translation as i see there are many different versions of translating…..peace- Show quoted text –

 

Inner Peace<innerpeace1979@gmail.com> Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:05 PM
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marici,dharma sangha uses the words END, DESTRUCTION approaching in his speech given at night..Peace…- Show quoted text –

 

marici<zutakac@gmail.com> Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:30 AM
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From: marici <zutakac@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 22:10:49 +0100
Subject: Brahmachakra
To: buddhaboy <buddhaboy@googlegroups.com>This is more for my own interest and not really understandable for
non-yogis, but I am sharing what I have found about the Brahma-chakra that
Buddha Boy is speaking about here:”In the beginning, starting from the seventh chakra while reaching at Brahma
chakra, Klesha <http://www.etapasvi.com/en/encyclopedia/show#klesha&gt; (the
poisons) and Mara <http://www.etapasvi.com/en/encyclopedia/show#mara&gt; (evil)- Show quoted text -*samadhi-yoga*ensues, and
*prana* and *manas* cease to work. The lotus is described as furnished with
ten millions of lobes and wonderfully brilliant. The presiding God of this
centre is Alaksyanatha, the Sakti called Maya (= Mahamaya?; Akula in the
Ms.) and the *Rsi* Mahavisnu.”
http://www.shivashakti.com/gorchak.htm&#8211;
marici–
मरीचि marīci